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    Hi guys,

    I've really struggled to find the russian words for "bid" and "bids", as in a bid at an auction. I keep getting words that I think mean more like proposition and rate for some reason.

    Also what would be the russian word for "snap", not as in to snap a stick but more like the way it's used in english to describe something as quick or fast.

    Thank you in advance for any help anyone can give, I really appreciate it!!

    Joe

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    The leading Russian online auction site Молоток.Ру uses "сделать ставку" for "to bid". And the word "a bid" will be "ставка".

    "to snap" could be translated many ways depending on a context and whether you want to use slang or not.

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    Thank you for your quick reply Masteradmin! The context I'm trying to use for snap would be as in to snap something up, or similarly for something to quickly snap shut like a mousetrap. To do with something happening quickly, as in "that was snappy" or "he snapped it up"... the russian word for the term snap in that context.

    The results I get from google translate are...

    кнопка
    щелчок
    хватка
    треск
    защелка
    застежка
    моментальный снимок
    щелканье
    замочек
    живость
    захват зубами
    легкая прибыльная работа
    резкий звук
    сухой треск
    резкая отрывистая речь
    резкие слова
    легкая нажива
    кусочек
    сухое хрустящее печенье
    обжимка
    предприимчивость
    сухое печенье
    резкое внезапное похолодание
    энергия

    verb

    щелкать
    защелкиваться
    защелкивать
    огрызаться
    ломать
    ломаться
    огрызнуться
    цапнуть
    укусить
    порваться
    хлопать
    делать моментальный снимок
    застегивать
    ухватиться
    лязгать
    затрещать
    рвать
    прищелкивать

    adjective

    поспешный
    простой
    неожиданный
    без предупреждения
    легкий
    adverb
    внезапно
    с треском

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    Also slang would be acceptable depending if it still had the same meaning. If you could provide the best non-slang and slang version with this meaning that would be very helpful

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    Also, is this the correct way of saying "I bid".. not in past tense like I have bid before, more like I am someone who bids currently.. Я ставку? Not like someone saying "I bid on a washing machine last week" more like someone saying "what do you do with your spare time... I bid"

    Many thanks for any and all help you can give me on these couple of points!

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    I can't think about a word in Russian which is a full equivalent of what you describe as snap. Maybe if you will provide more exact context (several sentences) someone can give you ways to translate them.

    That is the problem with different languages: sometimes words can not be translated, only full sentences.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Thanks for the replies guys, yeah I've found that out recently about the difficulty isolating sections of a sentence..

    Am I right in thinking that я ставка is "I bid" and therefore мои ставка would be the right way to say "my bid"

    Thanks again!!

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    «Ставка» is a noun, so «я ставка» would mean "I am a bid"! According to MasterAdmin's translation, "I bid" (past tense) would be «я сделал/а* ставку» (literally "I made a bid"), and "my bid" would be «моя ставка».

    Bear in mind that "I bid", in English, is ambiguous, as it could be either simple present or simple past tense ("I bid on auctions every week", or "I bid on an auction last week".)

    * «Сделал» if the speaker is male, «сделала» if the speaker is female.
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    Demonic Duck that was a great reply thanks!!

    So would "I bid" present tense.. as in I am someone who bids.. along the lines of "I dance".. be the same as "I bid" past tense, and also if it wasn't necessarily said by a male or a female what would apply regarding masculinity/feminity. (say it was the name of a website or book for example)

    Once again thanks for the great help!!

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    I guess the present tense would be я делаю ставки(I make bids), although that might be ambiguous as it could also mean 'I make bets'.
    Maybe you would need to mention auctions explicitly. eg. something like я участвую в аукционах/торгах(I take parrt in auctions)

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    Actually мультилекс, which is the best online En-Ru/Ru-En dictionary I know of, doesn't list «ставка» under the translations of "bid", nor does it list "bid" under the translations of «ставка», so I have no idea whether this translation is actually correct.

    Мультилекс gives «предложе́ние цены́» (lit. "proposal of price") for the noun, and «предлага́ть цену́» (lit. "to propose a price") for the verb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonic_Duck
    Actually мультилекс, which is the best online En-Ru/Ru-En dictionary I know of, doesn't list «ставка» under the translations of "bid", nor does it list "bid" under the translations of «ставка», so I have no idea whether this translation is actually correct.
    It is correct to use the word "ставка" here "Я делаю ставки на аукционе" or "Я делаю ставки на аукционных торгах".

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    So would "I bid" present tense.. as in I am someone who bids.. along the lines of "I dance".. be the same as "I bid" past tense, and also if it wasn't necessarily said by a male or a female what would apply regarding masculinity/feminity. (say it was the name of a website or book for example)
    In the present tense there is no difference regarding masculinity/feminity. "Я делаю ставки на аукционных торгах".
    But in the past tense the verb should be conjugated with the grammatical gender of the word which is used as a thing which made the bid. In Russian every noun has a grammatical gender: masculine, feminine or neuter. For example:

    • if it was a computer which bid for you: Компьютер сделал ставку на аукционе. (Компьютер is masculine).
    • if it was a company which bid for you: Компания сделала ставку на аукционе. (Компания is feminine).
    • if it was an unknown something which for you: Нечто сделало ставку на аукционе. (Нечто is neuter).
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    Once again many thanks for all the great help, and merry xmas!

    Would я ставка really translate to "I am bid"?

    Thanks

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    Would я ставка really translate to "I am bid"?
    Yes.
    "Я ставка." is equal to "I am a bid."
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    Thanks again coffee cup.. I've also been trying to find a word for "lucky" if anyone knows that of the top of their heads.

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    везучий/ая, удачливый/ая

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    about a person - везучий, удачливый
    about an inanimate object which brought luck once = (lucky day, lucky deal, lucky strike) - удачный
    about an inanimate object which is expected (superstitiously) to bring luck (lucky coin, lucky hat) - счастливый
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Thanks guys, infact also guys I was looking for the term for "good luck" aswell as "lucky".. I have found удача and "udachi"?! If anyone can clear this up that would be great.. it would be said in a neutral sense if that has any effect on spelling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcyte View Post
    Thanks guys, infact also guys I was looking for the term for "good luck" aswell as "lucky".. I have found удача and "udachi"?! If anyone can clear this up that would be great.. it would be said in a neutral sense if that has any effect on spelling?
    Good luck = [Я желаю тебе] Удачи. (Literary: I wish you luck).
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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    удача - a noun
    удачи = [желаю тебе] удачи = I wish you luck.
    lucky - удачливый, счастливый. (adjective), удачно, счастливо (adverb)
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