Thread: Help to translate a few names into Russian

Originally Posted by Wowik

If Eva is from Poland, I would translate as Eва because there is a traditional Russian transcription of Polish names despite it sounds Э in Polish.

Hmm... But there is a Polish actress known as Эва Шикульска in Russia.

Originally Posted by Оля

Hmm... But there is a Polish actress known as Эва Шикульска in Russia.

Right!

I think "Ева" is a traditional and "Эва" is a modern way to translate Eva from European languages where Э is prononced.

(Ева Браун, Эва/Ева Перон, ...)

Шикульска - is wrong in Russian. There is clear rule in Russian language for Polish names: It should be Шикульская.
But at present time some people break this rule (e.g. Барбара Брыльска). Also they can use non traditional Эва instead of Ева. I know Ева Шикульская also used in Russian

Initially Е in Old Slavonic sounds as Э. In Russian it was substantially iotacized. Letter Э was invented much later to distinct pronunciation in some cases.
Some linguists say there is no need of letter Э at all. Because almost all cases could be covered by simple rule У should be read iotacized in Russian words and not iotacized in foreign words.

But some foreign words became more Russian and begin pronounce in Russian manner.

50 years ago пиoнер was pronounced as пионэр (while пенсне, декольте, зеро, индекс, коттедж, купе, реквием, темп, шоссе now are pronounced with Э)

100 years ago пэр,сэр,мэр could be written as пер,мер,сер,...

Originally Posted by Wowik

пенсне, декольте, зеро, индекс, коттедж, купе, реквием, темп, шоссе now are pronounced with Э

Hmm... зеро and реквием are with е, IMHO.

OMG, our language needs a bit more of order.

Originally Posted by it-ogo

Hmm... зеро and реквием are with е, IMHO.

[ЗЭРО] - http://www.gramota.ru/slovari/dic/?zar= ... 7%E5%F0%EE
[РЭКВИЭМ] - http://www.gramota.ru/slovari/dic/?zar= ... 2%E8%E5%EC

Originally Posted by Wowik

Originally Posted by it-ogo

Hmm... зеро and реквием are with е, IMHO.

[ЗЭРО] - http://www.gramota.ru/slovari/dic/?zar= ... 7%E5%F0%EE
[РЭКВИЭМ] - http://www.gramota.ru/slovari/dic/?zar= ... 2%E8%E5%EC

Тьфу на эту грамоту ру в таком случае. Люди говорят через е. Вон, Ворошилов покойный в "Что, Где, Когда" на весь бывший СССР объявлял: "зЕро, господа!".

Originally Posted by it-ogo

Тьфу на эту грамоту ру в таком случае. Люди говорят через е.

Я никогда не слышала, чтобы говорили "реквием" через "е". Мне кажется, это даже произнести трудно.

[quote=Оля]

Originally Posted by "it-ogo":2s3tb1l0

Тьфу на эту грамоту ру в таком случае. Люди говорят через е.

Я никогда не слышала, чтобы говорили "реквием" через "е". Мне кажется, это даже произнести трудно.[/quote:2s3tb1l0]

Действительно говорят. Я так легко могу сказать.

Мне помнится так в "Маленких трагедиях" по телевизору и говорили.

Люди и [Что] говорят, не говоря уж о булоЧНой. А уж про [доЖЖи] теперь и не услышишь, пожалуй.

Originally Posted by Wowik

Люди и [Что] говорят

Которым лет по семьдесят. И среди таких тоже поискать.