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    жук is a beetle, a bug; жучок?, "ХОЛОДНЫЙ ЖУЧОК ИЗ СКУМБРИИ" not sound appetizing

    What am I misunderstanding? By the way, the internet did not have any helpful nuanced understanding of the culinary term "ЖУЧОК"! How can that be?

    It must mean something like, a "loaf" like a 'meatloaf', or more precisely, diminutive "little mackerel-fish loaf". But I MAY BE COMPLETELY WRONG.

    HELP, me understand the nuance. And if there is even one proper internet reference (wiki, google image, pinterest) let me know too.

    Cheers

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    -ок is one of the diminutive suffixes, check here

    Suffixes of Russian Nouns - Examples and Translation of Russian Suffixes

    Жучок is a small bug.

    Лист - листок
    Луг - лужок
    Сын - сынок

    When compared to other diminutive suffixes this one is considered to convey not the full meaning of diminution but partial

    лист - листок - листочек
    луг - лужок - лужочек
    сын - сынок - сыночек

    If you want to learn more, search for "diminutive suffixes" or "уменьшительно-ласкательные суффиксы" as they are called in Russian.

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    I have no idea why they decided to title the dish a "жучок".
    Another month ends. All targets met. All systems working. All customers satisfied. All staff eagerly enthusiastic. All pigs fed and ready to fly.

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    I even didn't realise it was an actual dish =)


    I think it may be derived from the word жухнуть (to wither).


    https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B...83%D1%82%D1%8C

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    "жучок" is not culinary term.
    There is recipe of cookies named "жучки" because of their shape and this one.
    I can only guess:
    1. Shape of this folded slices of fish may looks like cockroach torso.
    2. Last stage of recipe (tight folding) could be described by someone as "жучить" (punish) and product of action can be named from scheme "пучить/пучок, тыкать/тычок - жучить/жучок".
    It not sound appetizing anyway, so this name is strange indeed.
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    Here is a random picture from the internet. I don't know, it doesnt resemble any bug.


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    Yup, like hot-dogs don't resemble "dogs" either. Even hot ones.
    Another month ends. All targets met. All systems working. All customers satisfied. All staff eagerly enthusiastic. All pigs fed and ready to fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medved View Post
    Yup, like hot-dogs don't resemble "dogs" either. Even hot ones.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoax View Post



    So hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFox View Post
    So hot
    Lol, I think if they were called "hot beetles," they might not be as popular.
    Я просто пытаюсь учить русский язык.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoax View Post
    Here is a random picture from the internet. I don't know, it doesnt resemble any bug.
    Looking at this picture I can make one more guess: shape of the pieces inside one slice may be associated by someone with "козявки" which is not far from "жучки".
    Anyway, every suggestion above is weak.

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