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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    Do you really expect women’s commendation doing the laundry in a washing machine? I suspect you also do the dishes in a dishwasher, right?

    Deborski, don’t you think that Marcus uses a dishwasher too and we shouldn’t have commended him that highly?
    I don't have a dishwasher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    I don't have a dishwasher.
    Very impressive!
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    I don't have a dishwasher.
    Indeed! Y’all, guys, are lazy. I suspect every time that a girl drops into your place you camouflage the dishwasher as a piece of furniture and pretend being industrious doing the dishes.

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    Indeed! Y’all, guys, are lazy. I suspect every time that a girl drops into your place you camouflage the dishwasher as a piece of furniture and pretend being industrious doing the dishes.
    LOL, great global label. Sorry, you sound here like an arrant female chauvinist, do you?

    We are elaborating and testing our theory on cats so far, as it is usually done with mice in labs. We avoid getting over to males too fast. What if it may be harmful to them in some way? We stick to the humanistic approach.
    Forgive my bluntness, but from your rather obfuscatingly circumlocutional answer to my unambiguously straightforward question, I caught only one hard-core message: as soon as you do away with your research on cats you’ll still be desperately in need of a human male ‘guinea-pig’ to finish it off, otherwise everything goes down the drain with cat sh**….sorry.... feces.))). Am I right?. Are you (We) a pack, btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diogen_ View Post
    LOL, great global label. Sorry, you sound here like an arrant female chauvinist, do you?
    Well, there are exceptions to every rule. But yes, overall I think that women are superiour to men in being more industrious in their househoulds. (That doesn’t include such kinds of work as hammering and sawing, of course.)

    A woman is always like, “If I don’t get up and make breakfast then who else is gonna do that?” Then she gets up and makes it. And a man is like, “Perhaps she is gonna get up and make breakfast, why should I prevent her from doing her favourite work? The more she does it better and I may spoil something.” And he stays in bed.

    Later, seeing her having done the biggest part of work about feeding the family he feels that he ought to do the dishes just for his conscience' sake. Indeed, some other noble motives make work for him at that moment. He may even be enjoying washing up or feel appreciation of her work, that makes no difference. An average man is lazier in housework than an average woman.

    Female shauvinists believe that women are superiour to men. I claim that women are superior to men in being more industrious in housework. Perhaps I’m a shauvinist in this sense, but sadly, no one has helped me out of this point of view so far, even though I’ve always been eager to change my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    Female shauvinists believe that women are superiour to men. I claim that women are superior to men in being more industrious in housework... Perhaps I’m a shauvinist in this sense...
    I’m happy to learn that your chauvinism is limited to the ‘kitchen space’ , and you don’t have grudge against men in general in the slightest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    Well, there are exceptions to every rule. But yes, overall I think that women are superiour to men in being more industrious in their househoulds. (That doesn’t include such kinds of work as hammering and sawing, of course.)

    A woman is always like, “If I don’t get up and make breakfast then who else is gonna do that?” Then she gets up and makes it. And a man is like, “Perhaps she is gonna get up and make breakfast, why should I prevent her from doing her favourite work? The more she does it better and I may spoil something.” And he stays in bed.

    Later, seeing her having done the biggest part of work about feeding the family he feels that he ought to do the dishes just for his conscience' sake. Indeed, some other noble motives make work for him at that moment. He may even be enjoying washing up or feel appreciation of her work, that makes no difference. An average man is lazier in housework than an average woman.

    Female shauvinists believe that women are superiour to men. I claim that women are superior to men in being more industrious in housework. Perhaps I’m a shauvinist in this sense, but sadly, no one has helped me out of this point of view so far, even though I’ve always been eager to change my opinion.
    Lena, I agree with you that women are generally better than men when it comes to do the housework. However, it is also easy to make it too simple... for instance, not every man lives with a wife or girlfriend, so for the single man, he has no choice but to do all things himself. it is just like you say... if he does not do the laundry or the dishes... who will? Obviously not a woman, because he does not live with a woman. So I agree with you, but at the same time, I think it is not fair to say that all men are generally useless in this area. I don't mean to offend anyone, this is just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Square View Post
    Lena, I agree with you that women are generally better than men when it comes to do the housework. However, it is also easy to make it too simple... for instance, not every man lives with a wife or girlfriend, so for the single man, he has no choice but to do all things himself. it is just like you say... if he does not do the laundry or the dishes... who will? Obviously not a woman, because he does not live with a woman. So I agree with you, but at the same time, I think it is not fair to say that all men are generally useless in this area. I don't mean to offend anyone, this is just my opinion.
    Of course they are not useless in housework, Red Square. You know, in fact my opinion on this subject is much closer to yours than to what I'm pretending to have. I just like to have fun here and I enjoy pulling others' legs. Mind only that I've told you that in secret and please, don't tell anyone else, ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diogen_ View Post
    Forgive my bluntness, but from your rather obfuscatingly circumlocutional answer to my unambiguously straightforward question, I caught only one hard-core message: as soon as you do away with your research on cats you’ll still be desperately in need of a human male ‘guinea-pig’ to finish it off, otherwise everything goes down the drain with cat sh**….sorry.... feces.))). Am I right?. Are you (We) a pack, btw?
    Why desperately? You think of me too badly. I hope I am still having my guinea-pig. (I’ve been training him for ten years by now, but I must have been using wrong methods). Besides the new method is not painful at all and I hope he won’t run away before the end of the experiment.

    Deb, I hope you don’t mind my placing your link here as an example, do you?
    How to Toilet Train Your Cat - YouTube

    Btw, I don’t understand what the words “Are you (We) a pack, btw?” mean. What is a pack in English? Like a “pack of thieves”?

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    We are elaborating and testing our theory on cats so far, as it is usually done with mice in labs. We avoid getting over to males too fast
    I hope I am still having my guinea-pig. (I’ve been training him for ten years by now, but I must have been using wrong methods). Besides the new method is not painful at all and I hope he won’t run away before the end of the experiment.
    It looks like your two statements above contradict to each other. Yesterday you wrote that you tested your theories only on cats so far [sic],but today you claim that you’ve have been training a human guinea-pig for ten years by now[sic]. Could you explain that inconsistency? How testing is different from training in your experience? I’m at a loss.

    Btw, I don’t understand what the words “Are you (We) a pack, btw?” mean. What is a pack in English? Like a “pack of thieves”?
    Surely not pack of thieves. How could you imagine anything like that? Accoriding to Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Pack may stands for a. : a set of persons with a common interest : b. : an organized unit (as of Cub Scouts). That’s exactly what I meant. I just wanted to know (and still keep on wanting ) who else participated in your tests and why did you use pronoun’ we’?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diogen_ View Post
    It looks like your two statements above contradict to each other. Yesterday you wrote that you tested your theories only on cats so far [sic],but today you claim that you’ve have been training a human guinea-pig for ten years by now[sic]. Could you explain that inconsistency? How testing is different from training in your experience? I’m at a loss.


    Surely not pack of thieves. How could you imagine anything like that? Accoriding to Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Pack may stands for a. : a set of persons with a common interest : b. : an organized unit (as of Cub Scouts). That’s exactly what I meant. I just wanted to know (and still keep on wanting ) who else participated in your tests and why did you use pronoun’ we’?
    Gee, I feel like I’m being interrogated somewhere in CIA and your purpose is only to confuse me with your questions. But you forgot to read me the Miranda warning, officer. I’m afraid that you will be demoted for that.

    Nevertheless, to the point of the charge I want to claim the following.

    There is no contradiction in my testimony. Sadly, due to my carelessness I just missed the word “potential” in the sentence “I am still having my guinea-pig”. I should have gone with “I am still having my potential guinea-pig”. He is a potential guinea-pig for my experiments. Up to now I’ve been training him using the wrong methods by applying different sorts of kitchen-ware, like those advised in your previous posts, to different parts of his body. I have achieved no result. Now I’m testing a new method on cats.

    Will you enter my words in the report of the interrogation, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    Gee, I feel like I’m being interrogated somewhere in CIA and your purpose is only to confuse me with your questions. But you forgot to read me the Miranda warning, officer. I’m afraid that you will be demoted for that.

    Nevertheless, to the point of the charge I want to claim the following.

    There is no contradiction in my testimony. Sadly, due to my carelessness I just missed the word “potential” in the sentence “I am still having my guinea-pig”. I should have gone with “I am still having my potential guinea-pig”. He is a potential guinea-pig for my experiments. Up to now I’ve been training him using the wrong methods by applying different sorts of kitchen-ware, like those advised in your previous posts, to different parts of his body. I have achieved no result. Now I’m testing a new method on cats.

    Will you enter my words in the report of the interrogation, please.
    Okay,forgive my curiosity; it's my duty, after all.
    And please go on keeping us in touch how everything is going on with your cats and pigs! I’m zealous to learn to what extent your new approach may come to fruition! Otherwise, I'm ruined!

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