Just a poll but open for discussion.
Just a poll but open for discussion.
~ Мастерадминов Мастерадмин Мастерадминович ~
Trying to understand native speakers talk. That will get you everytime.
Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!
I clicked "other" because for me it is remembering new words and building vocabulary that is hard.
Oh! I have an idea.....a shock collar for forgetfulness.
Let me be a free man, free to travel, free to stop, free to work, free to trade where I choose, free to choose my own teachers, free to follow the religion of my fathers, free to talk, think and act for myself. - Chief Joseph, Nez Perce
Other: building vocabulary.
bah. Vocabulary isn't that hard.
Try watching a russian movie. You'll forget all about vocabulary and be like. "aasdf why can't i understand anything"
Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!
Maybe you can't understand anything because your vocabulary is too small?
Remember though, in my case I'm married to a native Russian who has loads of native Russian friends, and the only TV and radio broadcasts ever heard in our house are Russian channels, so I probably hear their language as often as I hear English these days, and the only time I have any trouble understanding their speech is when they use words that I simply haven't learned yet.
Of course, I tend to just sit there mute while they are chatting, because however small my passive vocab may be, my active vocab is much, much smaller.
No. My vocab is fine.
Last week at work a russian girl i knew came in and she knew that i went to germany and she asked me
"ты куда-то уезжал?"
and i was like
What?
And she had to repeat herself like 4 times untill i understood her.
It's not that i dont know the words, its just hard to understand spoken russian.
Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!
Actually, I can believe that. I find it much easier to understand a conversation when I am not actually taking part in it. I don't know why, but as soon as a comment or question is directed at me (especially if it's unexepced) my brain freezes and I am back to having to play back entire sentences in my head before I can understand them.
I suppose it might just be a form of stage fright
Should have added vocabulary Since all seemed to make "other" a vocabulary, I'll go ahead and change "other" to "vocabulary" and then add another "other"
~ Мастерадминов Мастерадмин Мастерадминович ~
and then spoken russian ?
Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!
I'd have to say pronounciation, at least at the point i'm at, there are some sounds I just can't make at all, like the rolled r sound
Grammar seems like a no-brainer. Compare it with other commonly learnt languages.
But I wouldn't mention "word order" under that heading ... unlikely to be one of the bigger issues unless your native lingo is Turkic or something.
Perhaps what I mean is the application of grammar rules in real time (productive skill of speaking).
By the way, vocabulary will always be a big issue for anyone learning any language in a non-immersion environment.
Море удачи и дачу у моря
Dogboy, you know both Russian, and Swedish (more or less ) Don't you find Swedish Grammar hell!? There are hardly any regularities!
No, thank god for more logical systems.....like Russian i suppose
Листьев не обожгло, Веток не обломало
День промыт как стекло, только этого мало
Well we all know that Indo-Europeean languages are "variations on a theme by" the Indo origin
Листьев не обожгло, Веток не обломало
День промыт как стекло, только этого мало
I've got to have to agree with Dogboy. I dont speak enough russian, but I do speak a pretty fair amount of spanish. Pretty much the only time that I can understand spanish is when its being spoken directly at me. Any other time, I pretty much cant decipher a thing.
Grammar a no-brainer? It may be OK to learn the six cases and so on, but getting the word order to sound natural and contextually correct is very difficult in Russian. As well as picking which aspect to use and so on. I picked grammar, but really, my biggest gripe in Russian is writing things stylistically correct. Something may be grammatically correct but the Russians always tell me that it doesn't sound right this way and must be written that way.Originally Posted by waxwing
Hehe
What I meant was that grammar was the no-brainer best choice for the poll
lol .. pretty idiotic choice of phrase there by me.
As for stylistic problems ... we all dream of having your 'problems' Pravit.
Море удачи и дачу у моря
Ah, my mistake.
I think, that what's hard for me is constructing certain sentences. I will know all the words, but I won't know how to construct the sentence because I don't hear Russian spoken as often as I used to. For me, pronouncing and understanding is not hard. When I hear Russian my brain switches to "Russian mode" and I can understand what is being spoken. But then, when I hear English it sounds like Gibberish or I think they're talking Russian. Has that happened to anyone else?
Vrei să pleci dar nu ma, nu ma iei
Nu ma, nu ma iei, nu ma, nu ma, nu ma iei
Chipul tau si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tai
Lol. Zhenya, i don't speak swedish. I know like 6 (or maybe 8 ) words. L0ol. Sorry for confuse.
Вот это да, я так люблю себя. И сегодня я люблю себя, ещё больше чем вчера, а завтра я буду любить себя to ещё больше чем сегодня. Тем что происходит,я вполне доволен!
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