Thread: USA government gone rogue (well... not exactly. L.)

The rogue behaviour of the US is hurting Europe in so many ways. Yet Europe continues to suck up to the US. So few are putting together the pieces and seeing that 1+1 is 2.

Here is another example: BBC News - Illegal EU migration surges as thousands flock to Italy

Illegal immigration of "asylum seekers" is a huge problem in the EU. There is virtually no route into Europe through labour immigration, for them.

They are people from poorer countries who would like to live in Western Europe. In some cases they are in trouble with the authorities, but most of the time, it is made up in order to make an asylum claim. Asylum laws means every claim must be investigated, while the person is forbidden from working and must be supported by the state.

The claimants themselves are often lying, and their countries of origin too, are unwilling or unable to assist. Many even lie about what country they are from. Investigations of claims take 2-3 years, sometimes longer with an appeal process.

Now almost ALL of the successful asylum seekers are from countries where the USA is behind the unrest or has actively got involved and triggered the situation:
Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan. Not only are these countries very negatively affected by the US agenda, but Europe has to pick up the fallout, in terms of millions of refugees.

After Ghaddafi was ousted in Libya - the main route from Africa into Europe is wide open. Ghaddafi did not allow people from other African countries into Libya for the purpose of illegally crossing to Europe, and prevented any people smugglers from operating. Libyans themselves usually had no strong reasons to leave.

Now, there are tent cities on the shores, of sub saharan Africans waiting to cross the Med, to Italy. While Italy itself has more than enough with its own problems and the people in towns where they land, are despairing. Same thing for Greece, with Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans. With all the problems in Ukraine, that route might open up more widely too - it's already in use.

Europe clashes with Russia over things like gay rights. That's a joke, and fabricated. The Russian view corresponds with the European view of the 1970s.
Meanwhile, those coming from Afghanistan or Somalia generally think that homosexuals should rightly be stoned alive, and even after 10-15 years in Germany, Scandinavia or UK, Somalian and other African parents routinely have their girls genitally mutilated.

The culture clash between people from rural Africa or tribal areas in Afghanistan/Pakistan, and on the other hand, Western Europeans could not be wider. Bitter and radicalised people from Iraq and Syria should not be in Europe either, but who can blame them for wanting to leave when their country is under siege by militant islamists with American guns and Saudi money?

If these countries were just LEFT ALONE, to develop at their own pace, in a way that works in their culture and historical context, they would be happy in their country. If a dictator runs a country in the Middle East, its not the US business! Or if it's socialist, muslim, vegetarian or feminst, or if they elect a pink elephant as their leader. Get it?!

But, no, the US has to force "democracy" on them, so it's easier to steal their natural reasources, like oil, and make sure that none of these countries grow into strong regional powers (Iran, omg, axis of "evil") or gets the idea to ally themselves with Russia or China.

Divide and conquer. And let the EU ("f---k them!") pick up the slap.

Originally Posted by Hanna

If these countries were just LEFT ALONE, to develop at their own pace, in a way that works in their culture and historical context, they would be happy in their country. If a dictator runs a country in the Middle East, its not the US business! Or if it's socialist, muslim, vegetarian or feminst, or if they elect a pink elephant as their leader. Get it?!

You probably never consider the possibility of a pink elephant electing himself and setting himself up as the one in charge and ultimately ordering the rest of the population to just go with it... But let's put it this way:

Why should rich people pay taxes that they don't benefit from? Who are those IRS guys to meddle with poor people's business and "help" them by taxing everyone? Those poor people are certainly better off left alone to continue developing in a way that's traditional for them. If those poor people who even have no daily food were left to develop at their pace, in a way that works in their financial context, they would obviously be much happier. So, all those responsible for that should stop "acting like Gods" and tax the rich people, for the well-being of the rest is none of their business. If they want to live miserable lives (and they do!), then just let them.

What do you say?