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Unusual Moscow metro train and metro stations elsewhere.
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I've seen this train, too, several times. :) Yes, it's very unusual.
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I've seen it too. Maybe there is more than one train like this.
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OMG! Basil, THANK YOU!
I have been in subways/metros in Washington, New York, Chicago, San Francisco, and Paris...and I have NEVER seen anything like that. The station is sooooo clean! You all would die in a New York or Chicago station!
Do you all have any of the video commercials in the tunnels like these?
New York
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsBLC72iDc
Here is a video that explains how it is all done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDEoZoKmcA
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The station is sooooo clean!
All metro stations in Moscow and StPete are very clean and most of them are very beautiful.
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Do you all have any of the video commercials in the tunnels like these?
I didn't even understood first what it was. No, there is no anything like that in Russian metro (at least in two cities I've mentioned).
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Do you all have any of the video commercials in the tunnels like these?
No. But I'v heard about this tech from a friend who saw such a thing in Beijing.
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@Rockzmom - The Moscow subway (underground) is legendary actually. So far as I know it's supposed to be the most elegant looking metro in Europe.
I haven't been to Moscow but I have heard that there are crystal chandeliers in some of the stations, and lots of marble and murals.
Speaking of which -- what happened to those Stalin murals that some people wanted to restore... That was in the papers here in the UK. Did the murals get restored in the end and if so, what do they look like?
If anybody feels inspired, please post some pics of this metro, I'd love to see what it looks like.
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Speaking of which -- what happened to those Stalin murals that some people wanted to restore... That was in the papers here in the UK. Did the murals get restored in the end and if so, what do they look like?
All this paper hype was about just one line from the Stalin-times anthem that was carved on the wall of one of the stations. After Khrushchev exposed the cult of personality the carved words were changed. About a month ago the station was open after restoration (it was closed for several years) and everyone have seen that the originally carved words were "mysteriously" restored :spiteful::
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7082/stah.jpg
As for me, I'm not very happy with this fact, but I think that there is too much noise that "liberal society" made from this.
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Ok, thanks! Well that's not much to be dramatic about regardless of ones opinion about Stalin.
Actually from the papers I got the impression that it was a mural, e.g. some kind of wall picture of Stalin looking heroic...! The UK papers love to imagine that Putin is some kind of new Stalin, etc, etc. etc.... So this piece of news fitted quite well into the general mood of the reporting about Russia...
So ARE there chrystal chanderliers in the Moscow metro, or is this an "urban myth"? Which is the best looking station?
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So ARE there chrystal chanderliers in the Moscow metro, or is this an "urban myth"? Which is the best looking station?
I'm not shure they are chrystal or not but there are plenty of such old-palace-fashion stuff in the central stations wich were built during Stalin times. I like "Площадь Революции" station and the tradition connected with it:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4593/64310989.jpg
There was a topic about that on this forum:
http://masterrussian.net/mforum/view...p?f=47&t=17272
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This is a very interesting site about Moscow Metro
http://www.metro.ru/
Unfortunately it's in Russian.
This link leads directly to the stations list:
http://www.metro.ru/stations/
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very interesting...but i hope they keep that commercial crap outside the metros of saint p and moscow :no:
on that note I hope that the westernization of those cities will not ruin those clean architectural beauties
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while i read this topic, i for some reason think about one interesting book: "метро 2033". It's about after nuclear war time, when all survivers take cover into the metro...
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Very elegant! :bravo:
I think I must have mixed up the St Petersburg and Moscow metro when I was writing earlier. I have been to St Petersburg and we did use the metro but I just don't remember it looking this glamorous!! Perhaps I travelled from an uglier station. The trains look exactly like the Stockholm metro trains from my childhood. But they got replaced in the 1990s.
ST PETERSBURG METRO:
http://www.andrewlmoore.com/images/p...Petersburg.jpg
http://mic-ro.com/metro/400/st-peter...avtovo-400.jpg
Meanwhile in London..... (bear in mind that this underground system is VERY old and the largest in the world. That's its' excuse....!)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3417/...3c96cde972.jpg
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Well, as Croc & Johanna posted about their's... I'll "brag" about my Metro stop as it is something to brag about.
The Metro stop closest to me is Wheaton, and it actually has the longest set of single-span escalators in the Western Hemisphere! Each featuring a length of 508 feet (155 m) and a (presumably) vertical rise of 230 feet (70 m ). That's almost the length of two football fields and takes almost three and a half minutes to ride it! Everyday you see people actually walking UP these steps and it is very funny. They start of all full of energy and then about part way up they run out of gas! Usually people do trot down them at a good pace (including me) but you need to keep a fixed point as to not get dizzy. http://media.www.gwhatchet.com/media...r-989091.shtml
http://www.american-architecture.inf...tation_big.jpg
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The Metro stop closest to me is Wheaton, and it actually has the longest set of single-span escalators in the Western Hemisphere!
Last time I had been using St Peter's metro their escalators seemed endless! I think one of their stations was more than 100 meters deep.
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I can attest to that! I now ride the St. Petersburg Metro every day and it almost takes 5 minutes just to get down the escalator. Чернышевская especially seems endless to me for some reason.
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The trains look exactly like the Stockholm metro trains from my childhood. But they got replaced in the 1990s.
In Moscow metro this process is alredy began. Almost all trains of Арбатско-покоровская line (blue line on the scheme) have a modern design (they are white and "plastic"; see the first photo in this thread).
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The Metro stop closest to me is Wheaton, and it actually has the longest set of single-span escalators in the Western Hemisphere!
Last time I had been using St Peter's metro their escalators seemed endless! I think one of their stations was more than 100 meters deep.
I can attest to that! I now ride the St. Petersburg Metro every day and it almost takes 5 minutes just to get down the escalator. Чернышевская especially seems endless to me for some reason.
Well, after seeing the photos Johanna posted and what everyone wrote, I went hunting online and found out some pretty interesting facts about the St. Pete's Metro!
http://www.nevanews.com/index.php?id...541§ion=14
- Plans for St. Petersburg’s first metro existed as early as 1899[/*:m:25p6r5zp]
- The system opened on 15 November 1955 with just eight stations[/*:m:25p6r5zp]
- This creative work includes mosaic panels, basreliefs, monuments, columns, arched ceilings and bronze chandeliers[/*:m:25p6r5zp]
AND...
- It is one of the deepest metro systems in the world due to the hydrogeological conditions of the area, since the "Venice of the North" was built around a huge, branching river and swamp on a multitude of islands. As a result of this enormous depth the St. Petersburg metro can also boast some exceptionally long escalators among its 200 in total; the maximum being 132m![/*:m:25p6r5zp]
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I hate St. Petersburg Metro because of that.
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Wow what interesting facts in this thread!
I have a fascination for everything that's under ground, including metros...
Interesting facts from Rockzmom and others! Rockzmom, why is that station so deep near you?
Have you seen any protypes of the new metro trains for Moscow? I wonder if they are going to go for very futuristic models?
Rockzmom's comment about the deepest subway on the Western Hemisphere reminded me that I have actually been to the deepest one in the Eastern hemisphere: In 1989 I was in Pyongyang, North Korea... (My father worked in Japan and was sent to negotiate something with the Korean government. My brother and I had to go too because there was nobody else to look after us -we were visiting him on summer holiday.) So the two of us spent a couple of days in Pyongyang with a Korean guide while my father was working. Pyongyang has a very unusual metro!
The guide said it was the deepest in the world. The escalator was ENDLESS.... For some reason it was not permitted to walk in the escalator, so it felt like it took 10 minutes or so to ride. When you get down to the bottom there are some large murals of Kim Il Song, at least on the stations that we saw. The stations were actually a lot better looking than any other metro that I had seen at the time. It felt like a very strange underground "church". Throughout the metro system they were playing marches on the loudspeaker system. Instead of advertisements inside of the metro trains they had pictures of the president. It seems things have gone steadily worse there since 1989 and I wonder if they still run that funky metro. What a strange country that was, but they actually had some incredibly fancy public facilities. My fathers negotiations failed and North Koreans basically told my dad to leave immediately and banned him from the country!
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Stockholm Metro
Not elegant & refined like in Russia, but instead the ground rock has been painted in different colours on each station. Some older stations are just tiled, but they have exhibitions instead, about an important topic or just any art.
My station when I grew up had a horrible mural depicting the aftermath of a nuclear war! It was enough to turn anybody into a pacifist for life. I couldn't find any picture of that mural though. Another station where I lived had a permanent exhibition about giant insects!
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8360/kthy.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/...94e331e2ea.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6912/stadiont.jpg
http://www.learnsweden.com/ezine/21may/pic5.jpg
http://vardinge.fhsk.se/utstallning-...ull%281%29.jpg
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/5162/radhuset.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/122/2...2a2cf6b951.jpg
http://www.heilborn.se/Bilder/xT-konst%2012.jpg
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Very impressive! I like Stokgolm metro!
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I had a trip in Moscow metro today, and the train appeared rather unusual. I rarely go by metro and was slightly surprized. I'v made several shots with my cellphone:
I live near Strogino metro station (Arbatsko-Pokrovskaya line) and I see this fantastic train almost every time when I come to the station at 8.18 a.m. If sombody want you can come by this time and get on it!
Frankly speaking I don't like this train because there are no enough places to sit down so you have to stand 40 minutes :cry:
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Frankly speaking I don't like this train because there are no enough places to sit down so you have to stand 40 minutes :cry:
1) Yeah, "modernised" trains with LESS seating.... :evil: That's actually not an improvement... Improvement is if you can sit down. London is doing the same thing, even on the commuter trains. ARRRGH! I'd rather be in an old train and be able to sit down than stand for half an hour...
Their other "success" was when they introduced new electric trains that needed more electricity to run than what was available on the entire suburban railway net.... genius! Plus, the modern trains kept having "electronic malfunctions" and people wanted the old (non-electrical) trains back, where you open the doors yourself instead of pressing a button... etc. Even the electronic flushing on the loos failed!!!
But how can that "special" metro train have a picture wall on one side and seemingly no doors? Do all the stations have the platform on the same side? Anyway, I think it's a nice initiative to put art in the metro trains.
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Using Moscow metro was one of the most stressful moments of my life, seriously. :shock: it's like, you don't even know where you're going, you just follow the crowd, 'cause there's no time to think about what you're supposed to do, plus the doors keep shutting with just half of a person inside! I myself would have been crushed if it wasn't for my friend who just held the door until the rest of me managed to jump in, scary thing.
But the stations do look spectacular, I felt as if I was actually in a museum rather than a metro station. Absolutely amazing.
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But how can that "special" metro train have a picture wall on one side and seemingly no doors? Do all the stations have the platform on the same side? Anyway, I think it's a nice initiative to put art in the metro trains.[/quote]
Every carriage is long and has doors on the both sides and each platform requiars the different doors to be opened.
I think it's ok to have such art train but not in the morning :roll:
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Using Moscow metro was one of the most stressful moments of my life, seriously. :shock: it's like, you don't even know where you're going, you just follow the crowd, 'cause there's no time to think about what you're supposed to do, plus the doors keep shutting with just half of a person inside! I myself would have been crushed if it wasn't for my friend who just held the door until the rest of me managed to jump in, scary thing. ...
Oh, it's very common situation in rush hour! It's really a challenge to get in/out the train. Too many people!!!!
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But how can that "special" metro train have a picture wall on one side and seemingly no doors?
No, only some windows (and seats) were replaced with pictures.
http://www.mosmetro.ru/files/9100588...3e2/aqua02.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5wOCPIDO0M
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Do all the stations have the platform on the same side?
Yes, metro stations were projected so, that only left doors are used. And there are only few stations, which do not obey this rule.
By the way, there is another tematic train in Moscow Metro (old design) -- "Читающая Москва".
http://www.metromost.com/alb/foto2/051-163.jpg
http://www.metromost.com/alb/foto2/051-159.jpg
http://www.metromost.com/alb/foto2/051-161.jpg
http://www.metromost.com/alb/foto2/051-165.jpg
http://www.metromost.com/alb/foto2/051-167.jpg
http://www.metromost.com/alb/foto2/051-155.jpg
All photos: http://www.metromost.com/alb/051.htm
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Very interesting!
I have a geeky fascination for metro systems, can't explain it....
The Russian metros are surely among the most interesting.
Are there any other cities that have a metro in Russia?
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Are there any other cities that have a metro in Russia?
Wiki says it's Нижний Новгород, Новосибирск, Самара, Екатеринбург and Казань. I knew only about Нижний Новгород and Новосибирск. I'd like to visit all these metros and compare them with those of Moscow and StP...
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Are there any other cities that have a metro in Russia?
Wiki says it's Нижний Новгород, Новосибирск, Самара, Екатеринбург and Казань. I knew only about Нижний Новгород and Новосибирск. I'd like to visit all these metros and compare them with those of Moscow and StP...
You forgot about Ufa. There is also a metro system under construction now in Omsk (they plan to open it in 2010) and a light metro line in Volgograd.
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You forgot about Ufa.
Not me, but Wiki. :D
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А в Волгограде есть скоростной подземный трамвай.
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А в Волгограде есть скоростной подземный трамвай.
а у вас есть фото? просто в Бостоне тоже есть подземный трамвай - хотелось бы посмотреть и сравнить :)
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А в Волгограде есть скоростной подземный трамвай.
а у вас есть фото? просто в Бостоне тоже есть подземный трамвай - хотелось бы посмотреть и сравнить :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volgograd_Metrotram
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Nice to hear that new metros are being built in other Russian cities.
From the map above -- I wonder if the ones in Minsk and Kiev are grand like the Russian ones! I have head that Minsk or Kiev are very stylish looking cities from an architectural perspective.
I think the map above has a rather lose interpretation of what constitutes a metro. The one in Copenhagen is brand new and mostly overground (s-bahn). I think it's only one line - it's more like a train.
EDIT:I think that map is mistaken. Lausanne is not a big town at all! I've been there many times and I have never seen any metro. The town is just hills. There is a funky kind of funiculaire tram, that's all. Likewise - Frankfurt simply hasn't got a metro - I was there only a few months ago and there is no metro!
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