Thread: Stalin buses to be launched in 40 cities

It should not be forgotten that Stalin wasn't at all opposed to Hitler in the beginning of the war, and that the two of them were in agreement about, for example, attacking Poland. Stalin had his fair share in starting WWII.

I find it strange that many people are quick to vilify Muslims, or Russians, or whoever else (sometimes based on rumors only), but when it's about Germans and WW2... or no! we hurt can their feelings. It looks like a club of popular kids, who defend their own.

gRomoZeka, no offense, but do you have any idea what actually happens each time any German even dares to publicly mention Nazis and Hitler in any even slightly favorable way? Or dares to say anything even remotely negative about Israel, Jews, or even any individual who just happens to be a Jew? When a right wing party in Germany manages to get one person into any local parliament, there's a cry of outrage in the rest of Europe. But who cares about the much stronger right in the Netherlands, in France and elsewhere?

Do you realize that up to the soccer world championship in 2006 which took place in Germany nobody in Germany would even have dared to display the German national flag privately? Can you imagine what discussion we had then when suddenly all those small German flags appeared on the cars? The French and British press already saw the ugly Nazi raise his head again! Even many Germans did. We Germans have learned not to feel any pride for our country. The German word for pride, Stolz, has been largely converted to a meaning of "pride for one's personal achievements", and nationality is not a personal achievement.

If even a remote village in Germany decided to put a Hitler sticker on the windshield of their single local bus it would make the title page of any British and French newspaper, I bet you.

Originally Posted by bitpicker

It should not be forgotten that Stalin wasn't at all opposed to Hitler in the beginning of the war, and that the two of them were in agreement about, for example, attacking Poland. Stalin had his fair share in starting WWII.

Russia and Germany had hundreds of years of politics even before XX century, so I guess it's pretty "normal"

Originally Posted by bitpicker

We Germans have learned not to feel any pride for our country.

The Nazi idea was born on the ashes of WWI when Germany has been basically taken from a great empire pedestal and put to dirt. It was Germans' pride what created the Nazi idea. Many Germans thought that the dolchstoßlegende can't stay unpunished for long and that basically spoon-fed the Nazi idea. All people are racists, so that was easy. If Germans would have won the WWII it probably would have been greatest achievement for the Western Europe and greatest fall for the Eastern Europe
But since they didn't win - they paying the price

You know, there are funny facts of modern world: Turkey is very popular among Russian and German tourists but owners of Turkish resorts spend time to carefully accommodate Russian tourists apart of German tourists in the month of May, because Russia celebrate WWII victory on May 9th and Germans would be considered "enemies" by Russian tourists at this day and vice versa. It only brings head aches to Turkish guys

I think the WWII was the ugliest war of the mankind, when the war ends everybody has to live with consequences and the Nazi idea has made the consequences very dramatic

Originally Posted by bitpicker

If even a remote village in Germany decided to put a Hitler sticker on the windshield of their single local bus it would make the title page of any British and French newspaper, I bet you.

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Does the opinion of British and French newspapers so important to Germans?

And as soon as you comprise one Empire (EU) it looks more like internal regional relations.

The problem with Germans is their perfectionism. When they decided to be Nazis their implementation was perfectly devastating. I suspect that any social theoretical idea implemented by Germany can be devastating in the same way. UN should prohibit Germans to adopt any social theories, they should concentrate on the individual ideas to avoid uncontrollable cumulative effect.

BTW for similar reason Russians should not have central power...

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