Thread: Stalin buses to be launched in 40 cities

Originally Posted by Crocodile

That is probably an overstatement ignoring what preceded the WWII. The mistake Hitler had done attacking the USSR was a repetition of the mistake Napoleon had done.

I said "MIGHT" though, didn't I? Really, I just think Eric's "self loathing" is a bit sad.

And yes, I agree with you Croc. I made the mistake of talking politics at work today and we were arguing about just this. As the discussion got more heated, my colleague asked what I though would have happened if the USA had not intervened in Europe.
I said that I thought there would have been a bit more damage to places like England, and perhaps even an invasion there. But eventually Hitler would have met his doom in the USSR anyway. It is simply not possible to win long term against Russia. If Hitler hadn't taken on the USSR, and if the US had never joined the war, then Germany could have kept the gains they made in the early days of the war, and I for one would probably have been German speaking, not to mention Nulle. Oh well!
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Originally Posted by Hanna

If Hitler hadn't taken on the USSR, and if the US had never joined the war, then Germany could have kept the gains they made in the early days of the war, and I for one would probably have been German speaking, not to mention Nulle. Oh well!
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I'm not sure things would be as easy as that. First of all, the war with Britain was not over. And Britain is some die-hard dude. And even long before the direct involvement of the US troops, the British were able to mobilize some hidden reserves like Canada and that could have only get nastier. The French resistance could only get more intensive (and the history showed it did) and we all know how ugly a partisan war could turn for the [even more military able] invader. Overall, Germany is not so big a country to control everything and given the ideology of the super-people and the under-people they couldn't be that attractive in the long run in the eyes of the majority of Europe. I think the initial success of Germany in the WWII was in large part due to the enthusiasm of many Germans, the ability of the ideology to get people their national pride back, something they were deprived of during more than a decade. And enthusiasm is something short-lived by nature, you can't do a long run with it.