Thread: Shakespeare

Except for othello, i never really liked shakesphere. All his stuff seems to die on you half way through.

Kurasowa's version of Macbeth puts old william to shame a bit imo.
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Have you ever seen a proper performance of one of Shakespeare's plays? I recommend you do.

Originally Posted by basurero

Have you ever seen a proper performance of one of Shakespeare's plays? I recommend you do.

Well, I've seen Orson Welles' Macbeth and Othello, and also Julius Caeser, Macbeth (another version) and one more at school, as well as one more Othello - All films I am afraid, but the same conclusion. Othello brilliant! MAcbeath and Caeser, great until halfway, then it dies.

That saiod, the language is very strong, its just the content i htink. For example, Kurosawa cut quite alot out of Macbeth for his Throne of Blood version, for example, he dosn't show the king being killed, only Lady Macbeth waiting for her husband to return from the killing. I found it an over all much more rounded adaption.

Macbeth is Great! I like the witches' chant...

Enter the three Witches.

FIRST WITCH. Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd.
SECOND WITCH. Thrice and once the hedge-pig whined.
THIRD WITCH. Harpier cries, "'Tis time, 'tis time."
FIRST WITCH. Round about the cauldron go;
In the poison'd entrails throw.
Toad, that under cold stone
Days and nights has thirty-one
Swelter'd venom sleeping got,
Boil thou first i' the charmed pot.
ALL. Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
SECOND WITCH. Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the cauldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and howlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
ALL. Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
THIRD WITCH. Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf,
Witch's mummy, maw and gulf
Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark,
Root of hemlock digg'd i' the dark,
Liver of blaspheming Jew,
Gall of goat and slips of yew
Sliver'd in the moon's eclipse,
Nose of Turk and Tartar's lips,
Finger of birth-strangled babe
Ditch-deliver'd by a drab,
Make the gruel thick and slab.
Add thereto a tiger's chawdron,
For the ingredients of our cawdron.
ALL. Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
SECOND WITCH. Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.

(I have a copy of Pasternak's translation into Russian of Romeo and Juliette.)

Just sign me,
Another oldtimer.

Nose of Turk and Tartar's lips

Good old Shakespeare.

*LOL* - great one, Chaika!

I like "Liver of blaspheming Jew" too....

Good old Shakespeare indeed

Shakespeare wasn't the easiest one for me to read, but I definitely appreciated it much more than, for instance "The dream of the rood" or Chaucer 'cause these, and some others from that period of time, really did make my head ache a bit

I am sure Shakespear's works, if they were even truly his, would be much more appreciated if they weren't forced upon children, including myself when I was at school, having to pick at every extract of them in a pressurising environment. And I'm sure I would have seen Macbeth in a different light if I chose to read it instead of having to hear it in a droany teacher's voice...

Originally Posted by Volk

I am sure Shakespear's works, if they were even truly his, would be much more appreciated if they weren't forced upon children, including myself when I was at school, having to pick at every extract of them in a pressurising environment. And I'm sure I would have seen Macbeth in a different light if I chose to read it instead of having to hear it in a droany teacher's voice...

I do understand you in the light of a Russian schooler.