Thread: Russian Mafia

Hey, I was just wantingto find some info concerning the Russian mafia if anyone knows some good internet sites or some good books concerning this subject I'd really appreciate it a lot.

Originally Posted by Sean

Hey, I was just wantingto find some info concerning the Russian mafia if anyone knows some good internet sites or some good books concerning this subject I'd really appreciate it a lot.

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For a very informative book try 'Red Mafiya -How the Russian mob has invaded America' by Robert Friedman

Anyone had direct experience with the mafia?

I have seen stuff that I believe to be the Russian mafia, without actually tapping on their shoulder and asking "are you the mafia? Can I have my picture taken with you?"

I've seen big guys in expensive suits giving a briefcase full of money (they opened the case) to some other guys in suits who had guns under their jackets. This was in a Moscow cafe about 4 years ago. But since the Russian Mafia is just a fantasy they were probably legitimate business men .

Oh yeah? And the bouncer at the door just smiled politely and let you in? If you had been stupid enough to even approach the entrance of that "Moscow cafe" you would have been given such a mighty kick in the lower back that you would have landed on Mon Martre in Paris a few minutes later. Sorry, JB, but that story of yours is pure BS. Stop watching those Holywood flics.

Now who's promoting the Hollywood stereotype? The cafe was a quiet little drink and snack setup on the second floor of ГУМ. No walls or doors, little bistro tables out in the open, just a few shops away from Rostik's.

Not that snuff films are necessarily Russian mob, but does anyone know whether any information on such activity has ever really come out into the open? I've never heard of there being anything substantial about a snuff ring/raquet getting revealed. Has anyone who has been caught spilled the beans in any major way? Major cases etc...

And yes, I have seen one too many American movies about Russian crime syndicates.

urghh, I feel nauseous

Originally Posted by JB

Now who's promoting the Hollywood stereotype? The cafe was a quiet little drink and snack setup on the second floor of ГУМ. No walls or doors, little bistro tables out in the open, just a few shops away from Rostik's.

Sorry, you can't win our trust back by telling more lies.

Yup, total lies. ГУМ really doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by JB

Yup, total lies. ГУМ really doesn't exist.

ГУМ does exist. But that episode never happened.

People can choose to believe whatever they wish. But so far I haven't heard that your opinion has any weight in the world.

Originally Posted by JB

But so far I haven't heard that your opinion has any weight in the world.

Oh? I assume we've all heard that yours does? When was that programme on? Did anyone tape it?

I know this might sound really silly.. but I've got a classmate, who have said that he had been followed by the russian mafia, since he was 12 (now he's 16)
If he was being followed by one, wouldn't he have been killed by now? If that was their intention?

-Tenna.

Зачем же российской мафии хотелось бы преследовать двенадцатилетнего школьника?

I hate to break it to you, but teenage guys tend to say lots of things that don't make a damn bit of sense.

Speaking of Hollywood; I never really noticed before I started studying Russian, but i've noticed that it seems like in a substantial amount of movies that the villian is always some rogue ex-KGB faction trying to take over the world, or pit the superpowers against each other for world destruction. I think its interesting to note the influence this has on the psyche of Americans. While subtle, this type of "propoganda" (for lack of a better word) has people thinking that in Russia, your either a corrupt government official, part of some Mafia organization, or poor.

I guess it's because of this that my parents get really worked up when I go to Russia - they are always concerned for my safety. It's funny, too, because i'm more worried about getting jumped by street gangs in East St. Louis than I am about getting in trouble in Russia. Oh well, what are you going to do...

Oh man, you're right tdk2fe. I hate hollywood for that. Why is the bad stuff always related in someway or another to Russia! My parents are completely prejudiced against Russia and think if I go there, chances are they wont be seeing me again.