So basically what you have said is what my point is all along. That the Vatican is it's own religion and can say and do what ever it likes.

Well now that we have got that out of the way. I agree. She is more than welcome to say Peter was their first pope. Print their own Commandments and such.-- As long as she keeps them to herself--

And since she has stopped killing off all her rivals I suppose it is OK to even be friends with some of her devotees.


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or if they want to call Peter the Pope or Santa Claus has no effect on the rest of the world's religions. Their interpretation of the scriptures, 10 commandments or whatever is for their own people and not being forced on anyone else.
Unfortunately you are wrong about that as they are trying to impose their beliefs on the rest of us but you never responded to that either. JP II was hoping for legislation concerning Sunday that would effect all of us.


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(again I recommend you get out a history book)
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I have read. History of the Christian Church. And also a better one than that, the Bible. And since that holds no weight with catholics I have the Catholic Catechisms themselves. Something I recommend you read especially concerning Sabbath



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in persecuting the Catholic religion
A good offence is a good defense, my dear.

The Vatican is a VERY powerful entity . She has her own military (The Swiss Papal Guard. The Swiss Guard is not considered to belong to any larger force, but is instead the army of the sovereign state of the Vatican. The force is specifically limited to one hundred soldiers.) and intelligence gathering agencies. The Holy See has permanent observers at the United Nations. The Vatican is a sovereign nation and as such is like no other religion.

I have every right to be suspicious of them and so do we all. Russia too. Russian Orthodox is a stumbling block to the Vatican, so you had better look out. There is a similarity between the two religions and the Vatican will try to use this to gain power in Russia.