Quote Originally Posted by JB
Exactly where did I say that I think the Pope or the Vatican has the authority to change scripture in the bible?
I assumed because you never responded to my posting of a quote from the
Confessio Romano.
Didn’t you read this?
Quote Originally Posted by DDT

However, here is what the Vatican says.:-

21."""""""" "We confess that whatsoever new thing the pope of Rome may have instituted, whether it be in Scripture, or out of Scripture, is true, divine, and salvific;and, therefore, ought to be regarded as of higher value by lay people than the precepts of the Living God...We confess that the Pope has the power of altering Scriptures, or increasing and diminishing it, according to his will...We confess that the Holy Scripture is imperfect and a dead letter, until it is explained by the Supreme Pontiff and permitted by him to be read by lay people." (Confessio Romano--Catholica, Articles IV, I, and XXI)."""""""""""


Pope has the power of altering Scriptures Did you get that??
Why are you still catholic? ……Tradition I suspect.

This is what God says about Tradition.:-


Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men...
And he said unto them, Full well YE REJECT THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD, THAT YE MAY KEEP YOUR OWN TRADITION.
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Mark 7:5-9, 13

This is what the pope says:-

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, #82, "...Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence."
The Question Box Column, Brooklyn Tablet, Nov. 8, 1958, teaches, “Tradition as a source of Faith would suffice without Scripture”

So the pope says that tradition is as good as scripture. Well we have already seen that that is not Biblical........oh I for got..the pope fixed that when he said that he has the authority to change scripture....silly me!
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Now, if you think that "that was then, this is now", you had better guess again! Pope John Paul II reaffirmed his supremacy. In an article in The Repository, on May 31, 1995, it read:
"ROME--In an appeal for greater unity among Christians, Pope John Paul II invited leaders of other churches...to join him in a discussion on the role of the papacy...But the pope, made clear that the authority of his office remains absolute and supreme..." (Written by Celestine Bohlen).

http://www.christiancourier.com/penpoints/newEdict.htm
http://www.christiancourier.com/archive ... ctions.htm

The Vaticans claim to infallibility
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07790a.htm#II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility
http://www.victorianweb.org/religion/Pa ... ility.html
http://atheism.about.com/od/popesandthe ... lity_3.htm


"Each individual must receive the faith and law from the Church with unquestioning submission and obedience of the intellect and the will. ... We have no right to ask reasons of the Church, any more than of Almighty God. ... We are to take with unquestioning docility whatever instruction the Church gives us" (The Catholic World, August 1871, vol. xiii, pp. 58089).


"The Christian faithful, conscious of their own responsibility, are bound by Christian obedience to follow what the sacred pastors, as representatives of Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or determine as leaders of the Church" (James A. Coriden, Thomas J. Green, Donald E. Heintschel, eds., The Code of Canon Law, Paulist Press, 1985, Canon 212, Section 1).


"Every cleric must obey the Pope, even if he commands what is evil; for no one may judge the Pope." --Pope Innocent III (1198-1216)
"The First See [Rome/papacy] is judged by no one. It is the right of the Roman Pontiff himself alone to judge...those who hold the highest civil office in a state. ... There is neither appeal nor recourse against a decision or decree of the Roman Pontiff." --From today's Code of Canon Law
Quote Originally Posted by JB
I find it ironic that the people of the very churches you rally against are the ones who put together the bible that you claim to know so much about.
These writings were already in existence before Rome was in control. The fact that Rome left some books out of Cannon is cause for concern.

Quote Originally Posted by JB
And exactly what scriptures are you reading? Are you reading the original's in Hebrew or the translations in Greek? .
I have read some in Hebrew and Greek and have checked against King James. I find it very ironic that a most despicable piece scum like King James II has his name on a well translated Bible. The Dead Sea Scroll proved have that the translation of some of the Old Testament books have been impeccably translated.