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    Well, I wouldn't generalize it over an entire nation like saying all the Russians are brainwashed or anything, but I think it's no big surprise almost all leftists/socialists/commies regardless of their nationality are either quite brainwashed folks or brainwashers themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    Well, I wouldn't generalize...
    ...all leftists/socialists/commies regardless of their nationality are either quite brainwashed folks or brainwashers themselves.
    Eric, this is not a logical thought process.
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
    Eric, this is not a logical thought process.
    I said I wouldn't generalize it OVER A NATION, of course I would do it over political classes, which sometimes are so easy to describe in a couple of words.

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    But your thought process is illogical. In the same breath, you say not to generalize about one thing, but ok to generalize about another? And to lump all "leftists" into one ball... is really a very extreme generalization.

    Your words:

    leftists/socialists/commies
    And you say further:
    of course I would do it over political classes, which sometimes are so easy to describe in a couple of words.
    If they were that simple to describe "in a couple of words" - it seems strange to me that our politicians are paid fortunes to nit pick and bicker such "simple policies" to death.

    No, it's a mistake to oversimplify and to generalize, in my opinion.
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavelov View Post
    Be careful as so many Russians are still brainwashed socialists.
    Well there is nothing wrong with socialism. And I don't think the communist party is going to be making a comeback. They are history.

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    I don't get what some people's hangup is with "socialism." It seems to me, when I talk with these kinds of people, that they rarely have any depth of understanding as to what socialism really is. They have a definition based on rhetoric. Very sad.

    There are good and bad aspects to socialism. What is wrong with at least looking at the good...?
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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