Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Persia
Salam a true arab,
Thanks for your reply.
As you may know about 3 million arabs live in south west of Iran I heard from them(I lived 8 years there) that Iranians aren't true muslim because they don't have several women . Most of them (Iranian arabs) are uneducated and poor but most of them have several women (they don't care about those 2 Golden conditions).
You wrote :<this is exteremly incorrect, and the simplest answer to your claim is why do we still have Zoroastrians, jews and other religions in Iran. were they so strong or muslims did not want them to become muslims?>
Yes , when muslims came to Iran they didn't oblige Christians and Jews to change their religion because in Islam Christianity and Jewish has been accepted as a theism religions but Allah didn't know that Zoroastrianism is another theism religion too . Muslims accused Iranians worshiping fire , they didn't know that Iranians pay respect to fire ( like cross for Christians) not worship it , so muslims invaded Iran , killed Iranians , raped Iranians women , took thousands Iranian girls to Mecca and Medina to rape them as a sexual slave , took thousands Iranian boys to slave Muslims ( what a peaceful religion!!) to teach us theism!!
In this condition Zoroastrians had 4 choices
1- not change their religion , fight with peaceful muslims , being killed , loosing their wives , their daughters , their boys , their having.
2- Leaving their country ( more than 100.000 Iranians choose this choice and went to India , Queen (Freddie Mercury), American singer was one of them) .
3- not change their religion but pay jaziyeh ( money which non-muslim must pay to muslim government to have right of living)
Nowadays Zoroastrians are from these group
4- change their religion and protect themselves and their family from peaceful muslims .
I admit that some countries in east Asia or Africa became muslim by will but we Iranians became muslim by power of sword not will . If arabs hadn't invaded Iran , we never had became muslim , because we had own religion and we didn't need Islam .
I say it one more time there is permanent conflict between Iranian nationalists and Iranian religious men.
I love my country So I hate Islam , please tell me how can I love my country and Islam at the same time?

Princeofpersia:

You do not have to love Islam and I did not ask you to do so.
The spread of Islam in Iran was not because of the sword. It was a reslut of the great morality of Islam. Regarding slavery, the Persian, The Romans, The Greeks, and most of Great nations practised it but in Islam whenm a slave embraces Islam he will beee free and this dioes not happen in other religions. Slavery is a consequence of wars in old history and this slavery has built the New civilized world USA, South America. I am not with Salvery but it is something that has been practised by several nations and you can not blame muslims for doing it.
Regarding, worshipping Fire it is not accusation it is a real fact, it is not respect dued as you are saying, it is worshipping, prostrating in front of it. etc> which are clear signs of real worshipping.


you said:
but we Iranians became muslim by power of sword not will . If arabs hadn't invaded Iran , we never had became muslim , because we had own religion and we didn't need Islam .


At that time, Iran was the second greatest Dynasty in the world. It was extremely advanced in science, weapons, number of soldiers than muslims. Can you tell me why did Islam defeat it and why those proud Iranians embraced Islam? They could have fled to other countries ?
the real answer is that:

The rise of Islam as a religion replacing Zoroastrianism is one of the greatest events in world history.
Various reasons can be adduced for the success of this invasion: It was more spiritual than material; the birth of a crusading religion in Arabia coincided with the exhaustion of a dynasty in Iran; Islam was democratic while Zoroastrianism was exclusive and feudal; four centuries of independence under autocratic rule had sapped initiative and reduced the will to resist. But none of these considerations fully explain the completeness with which Iran apparently succumbed to Islam. Islam soon became the dominant religion in Iran