Quote Originally Posted by Vesh
Quote Originally Posted by saibot
Mutations that create an entirely new animal has never been observed.
Because they do not exist. It's a statistical process.

Horse does not turn into zebra overnight. In a result of a mutation a gene of white stripe appears in a horses population. And those stripes apparently not that bright, and appear not on the whole body of the horse, just, let’s say, on legs or shoulders. If this horses population happens to live in Africa savannah where stripe give some advantage, those horses who have them, live longer and have more descendants. Those horses, who happen to have genes that facilitate stripes to be brighter (all mammals have genes that modify their skin and fur color), live longer and have more descendants. They basically outbreed horses. At some point of the process stripped horses (zebras) do not mate non-stripped horses any more. This process takes tens of thousands years.
Yes I realize this...but my point is very, very simple. How do you know 100%, that it takes that long? No one has ever been able to live that long to see it!

I'm moving for an end to this discussion. I've said just about all I want to say. This is pointless. It's not like a few people arguing in a forum will solve this mystery. You have your opinion, and I have mine. Nothing you can say will make me change my mind, and I'm sure you feel the same way.

This is my last post in this discussion.

For me, it's over.

EDIT: Dobry, I didn't say evolution was proven false. I said all the "proofs" (aka arguments, that people like to say are proofs) FOR evolution have been proven false.

Everything that supports the theory has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, to be false. Not the entire theory itself. But when you take away all the support for a theory, what do you have left?

You can make the call.