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    Lesson Discussion: The Russian Alphabet

    This thread is dedicated to discussion of the lesson "The Russian Alphabet"
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    Feel free to leave your comments and ask questions about the Russian alphabet and pronunciation.
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    " Ы ы No English equivalent. To produce "Ы" sound, notice the positions of the tongue when pronouncing English sounds i as in kit and u as in sugar. Then place your tongue in between and emit a voiced sound."

    I have read this explanation a couple of times. I find it a bit confusing because it is a bit strange to place yor tongue "in between two positions". I think for this sound a more detailed description is need, because many languages do not even have this sound. I like the following explanation: "The sound is produced with the middle of the tongue raised toward the back of the mouth. The lips are not rounded, but spread wide. Then produce a sound between i and u." This explanation also contains "between i and u" (which is quite natural, because as a close central vowel ы is between i and u haha ), but a more precise description of the position of the tongue and the shape of lips during articulation is given.
    The rest of the explanations I like a lot

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    The only difference I could discern between my personal [i] and ы is that when I say ы I "widen my throat", if you know what I mean.

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    Re: Lesson Discussion: The Russian Alphabet

    What do you guys think about the explanation of the Russian letter "P" as a flapped "tt" in "matter"? I tried to explain it like this to an American girl and it worked for her. The only thing is that I asked her to multiply that "tt" sound. But perhaps when you just read from a webpage it may be confusing...
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    Re: Lesson Discussion: The Russian Alphabet

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterAdmin
    What do you guys think about the explanation of the Russian letter "P" as a flapped "tt" in "matter"? I tried to explain it like this to an American girl and it worked for her. The only thing is that I asked her to multiply that "tt" sound. But perhaps when you just read from a webpage it may be confusing...
    That's a an interesting way of describing it, although I prefer to think of it as a rolled "R".
    Audio samples would be even better.
    Кому - нары, кому - Канары.

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