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    Russian Alphabet help

    my friend was trying to teach me the Russian alphabet, but was having trouble explaining a few of the charactors. They were: ы and б. Do they have a sound, if not how do they effect the word?

    any help is appreciated

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    thank you that site was helpful, but one more question: what are Ъ and Ь ?

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    Re: Russian Alphabet help

    I think, ы = "ea" in really

    б = b
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

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    Я так думаю.

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    Re: Russian Alphabet help

    Quote Originally Posted by Kakashka
    but one more question: what are Ъ and Ь ?

    After consonant before vowel. Separating hard/soft sign.
    Ъ - "hard sing" - previous consonant is hard and prononced separately from the next vowel.
    Ь - "soft sing" - previous consonant is soft and prononced separately from the next vowel.

    After consonant before consonant or at the end of word.
    Ь - "soft sing" - previous consonant is soft.
    угол - end l is hard
    уголь - end l is soft

    Historically in old Slavonic languages
    Ъ - very short vowel У or О. (Still used in Bulgarian)
    Ь - very short vowel И.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yer

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    The letters Ъ and Ь have no sound. They only indicate the quality of the preceding consonant. The Ъ means that the consonant is not palatalized (that it is a so-called hard consonant) and the Ь indicates that the preceding consonant is palatalized (it is a soft consonant). There are some additional spelling rules where Ь is there purely historically and does not indicate palatalization.

    Example:
    сел 'he sat down' /s'

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    [quote=chaika]
    сел 'he sat down' /s'

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    But печенье and печение are two different words.

    печенье = cookie, biscuit

    печение (from the verb печь = bake) = baking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadim84
    But печенье and печение are two different words.

    печенье = cookie, biscuit

    печение (from the verb печь = bake) = baking
    печение - это не только процесс, но часто так говорят и о результате.
    А наоборот даже еще чаще - см. у Даля вообще эти слова не различаются толком

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wowik
    Quote Originally Posted by Vadim84
    But печенье and печение are two different words.
    печенье = cookie, biscuit
    печение (from the verb печь = bake) = baking
    печение - это не только процесс, но часто так говорят и о результате.
    А наоборот даже еще чаще - см. у Даля вообще эти слова не различаются толком
    Лично я люблю читать Даля, но многие предпочитают не обращаться больше к его словарю по причине устарелости. У Ожегова печение - это процесс.
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