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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    But the last movie I watched (purely by accident) depicted unprotected sex scenes. I wonder, if unprotected sex is ok for 'straight' porn why should it be 'not ok' for gay porn?
    Всё зависит от КАКОГО секса имеется в виду. Or to more blunt about it, the question is: Куда входит член? (And I mean куда in the sense of "в КАКОЕ отверстие?", and not "в ЧЬЁ отверстие?" (мужчина или женщина).

    According to the American Center for Disease Control (CDC), the HIV risk for unprotected anal sex is about 5 times higher than the risk of unprotected "traditional" sex (член/владище). And the risk of unprotected traditional sex is about 10 times higher than the risk of unprotected oral sex. Which means that anal sex without a condom is about 50x more risky than oral sex without a condom. In more general terms, we can compare the risk levels as follows:

    Anal sex = HIGH risk
    Traditional sex = MEDIUM risk
    Oral sex = LOW risk
    Mutual masturbation = "STATISTICALLY ZERO" risk

    Also, HIV can easily be passed from a man to a woman, but much less easily from a woman to a man. In the case of anal sex between two men, HIV most often passes from the "Top" (активный) guy to the "Bottom" (пассивный) guy, and much less often from the "Bottom" to the "Top."

    So, in the event that a female porn actress has HIV, it's relatively unlikely that she will pass the virus to a male actor, who might then pass it to other females. (Female-to-female transmission is EXTREMELY rare.) And if the males in straight porn are strictly heterosexual and don't use heroin by needle, then it's unlikely that they will catch HIV and pass it to their female co-stars. It's true that some "heterosexual" porn actors will take "gay for pay" roles in gay porn, but they nearly always take the role of "Top," so again, the chances that they will catch HIV are low.

    So for all these reasons, unprotected sex in straight porn is not quite as dangerous as unprotected sex in gay porn.
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    By the way, I understand that Lampada decided to close the other thread, but I did have a comment about RedFox's OP:

    «Бренден Айк был вынужден покинуть пост руководителя (CEO) компании Mozilla. ... Травля дошла до того, что некоторые подконтрольные ЛГБТ сайты, в том числе один из крупнейших сайтов знакомств (OKCupid), стали блокировать доступ пользователей Firefox, предлагая сменить браузер, так как Бренден Айк шесть лет назад пожертвовал тысячу долларов на продвижение поправки в конституцию штата Калифорнии, определяющей брак только как союз между мужчиной и женщиной.
    Статья, цитированная здесь РедФоксом, пропущает одну важную деталь: калифорнский закон(-опроект), так называемый "Proposition 8" или "Prop 8", определяющий слово «БРАК» только как союз между мужчиной и женщиной, ничем и никак не запретил (и не повредил) "легально зарегистрированние домашние партнерства" или "гражданские союзы" однополовых пар в Калифорнии.

    In case my Russian wasn't clear: Brenden Ike was attacked by some LGBT activists *not* because he hates LGBT people -- like many tech companies, Mozilla/Firefox banned anti-gay discrimination and offered "spouse/partner" benefits to same-sex pairs before a lot of other corporations did.

    Nor was he attacked because he wanted to ban "domestic partner" or "civil union" laws that provide legal protections for same-sex couples in long-term relationships. (California's "domestic partnership" law was so broad, and provided so many protections, that many described it as "legal marriage without using the actual word marriage". And "Prop 8" did not change the "domestic partnership" law; it only banned the state of California from using the word "marriage" on legal documents describing same-sex couples).

    Brendan Ike was called a HOMOPHOBE simply because he believed (as I also do!!) that the word "marriage" is essentially heterosexual; that for thousands of years "marriage" has described the union of yin + yang or Mars + Venus, (but not, however, yin + yin or Mars + Mars); and that some other word should properly be used to describe same-sex unions.
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    Also, Ramil suggested a difference between гей and п*дор, and Lampada objected that the second word is too insulting for general use.

    I partly agree with both of them, but I was reminded of a brilliant and famous performance by comedian Chris Rock, on the general theme "I love black people, but I hate n*ggers":



    Key quote: "Every time black people want to have a good time, ignorant-ass n*ggers gotta fuck it up."

    (My translation: "Когда порядочные негры хотят просто веселиться, всегда придут «некултурные-чёрные-м*даки» и всё испортят, бля!"

    It's filled with rude language and the English will be difficult for some to follow, but it's hilarious and full of wisdom. (Nevertheless, as a white person I would never use the word "n*gger"!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    Brendan Ike was called a HOMOPHOBE simply because he believed that the word "marriage" is essentially heterosexual
    Не знал этой детали. Это уточнение делает всю эту историю еще более анекдотичной.

    Этот эпизод служит хорошей иллюстрацией к мысли, которую я высказывал ранее: пытаться бороться против любого "зла" при помощи идеологии — всё равно что тушить пожар бензином.

    Независимо от того, насколько хороша или плоха была идея, выйдя на общественный уровень, она становится просто еще одной машиной подавления свободной воли.

    Какое дело машине до того, каких именно взглядов придерживается человек во всех деталях и нюансах? Никакого. Машина ставит штамп и прокручивает "клиента" через конвеер. А уж черный он там, белый, либерал, коммунист, гей, гомофоб... был бы человек, а штамп найдётся.

    Именно так демократия прекращается во "власть демократов", а толерантность — во "власть толерастов".

    Идеи хороши лишь тогда, когда они являются продуктом собственного размышления.

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    Именно так демократия прекращается во "власть демократов", а толерантность — во "власть толерастов".
    Хотя нас учили, что настоящие демократы у власти как-то даже прислушиваются к чаяниям людей. Если не референдумы, то ну хотя бы опросы общественного мнения и всё такое.
    "Невозможно передать смысл иностранной фразы, не разрушив при этом её первоначальную структуру."

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