Thread: Alcholism in Russia

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As the old saying goes: "More people are drowned in a glass than in the ocean." Indeed, since 1945 more Russians have died due to alcohol (read: vodka) than the estimated 30 million that were lost to World War II. In a typical year, more than 35,000 Russians die from alcohol poisoning. We're talking "poisoning," not death from long term alcohol abuse! The latter, of course, has only increased since the fall of the Soviet Union. Between 1995 and 2000 alcohol consumption in Russia rose 500 percent to 2.1 billion quarts of vodka every year - that's 28 bottles for every man, woman and child. This figure does not include the "moonshine vodka" or самогонка that is prevalent in rural areas. It was estimated in 2002 that 30 percent of men and 15 percent of women were alcoholics. With statistics like these, life expectancy in Russia will only continue to decrease. One final sobering note: of the 9 million Russian babies born in 1993, only 9% were completely healthy.

Any comments?

Well... We new it from school. 26 L per year for every person - oficial statistics. Yeah...

Originally Posted by Gerty

Well... We new it from school. 26 L per year for every person - oficial statistics. Yeah...

Where did you find this "oficial statistic"? WHO says (www.who.org) about 9.6-9.8 as I remember. In Great Britain about 9.4 L per capita, in Spain and France about 11, in Czechia and Ireland about 14 L.

I checked your link, WHO, and they say:

Country: Russian Federation
Year 2001
Total Adult Per Capita (litres) 10.58
Beer 1.82
Wine 1.12
Spirits 7.64

With this additional information: Based on the results of a reliable local survey, the key informants estimate for the percentage for unrecorded alcohol consumption in the rural population of Russia (Veronej, Novograd and Orusk regions) is 80-90%.

Also note that this is in litres of PURE ALCOHOL. I think the original text was talking about number of bottles of vodka...

Oh the original text comes from a Russian Culture course on www.russianmentor.net

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вопрос то собственно в чем? =)))

Пить надо меньше... но чаще!

- Вот несчастье! - сказал он. - И почему вы так много пьете?
- Иногда бывает трудно удержаться, - грустно сказал брат Нанин.
- Это верно, - сказал Румата.

А. и Б. Стругацкие. Трудно быть богом.

Originally Posted by JJ

Originally Posted by Gerty

Well... We new it from school. 26 L per year for every person - oficial statistics. Yeah...

Where did you find this "oficial statistic"? WHO says (www.who.org) about 9.6-9.8 as I remember. In Great Britain about 9.4 L per capita, in Spain and France about 11, in Czechia and Ireland about 14 L.

Where did I find it? Ask my history teacher where did SHE find it, as I just said: I know it from the school

Originally Posted by JJ

Ireland about 14 L.

I..eh..win..

Originally Posted by Niamh

Originally Posted by JJ

Ireland about 14 L.

I..eh..win..

Проставляйся =)))

Мы непьющие! Хотя по праздникам...

http://www3.who.int/whosis/alcohol/alco ... ge=english

Uganda is 19.47 Liters/person
Wow, that is high!

Russian Federation 10.58 Liters/person
Eh, sounds rather normal to me.

United States 8.51 Liters/person
Hey the Russians are beating us by a couple liters.
Lets get with it guys!

Ukraine 4.04
Wow, this is rather low!
While I was out there, there were bars on every corner.
This cannot be correct.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

With this additional information: Based on the results of a reliable local survey, the key informants estimate for the percentage for unrecorded alcohol consumption in the rural population of Russia (Veronej, Novograd and Orusk regions) is 80-90%.

Maybe "Veronej" is Voronezh? And "Novograd" is Novgorod? And, finally, where is "Orusk" located? Maybe it was Kursk?

Finally, what credibility has a "reliable local survey", which can't even correctly spell names of several big cities?! Isn't trashcan the most appropriate place for such "surveys"?

In Russia the life expectancey for men is 58, and it is 72 for women. The reason why the men's age is so low is largely down to alcohol.

Originally Posted by TATY

In Russia the life expectancey for men is 58, and it is 72 for women. The reason why the men's age is so low is largely down to alcohol.

The main reasons for high men's mortality rate in Russia are "злая жена и водка" (с) приписывается А.П.Чехову

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

(Veronej, Novograd and Orusk regions)

Maybe "Veronej" is Voronezh? And "Novograd" is Novgorod? And, finally, where is "Orusk" located? Maybe it was Kursk?

Finally, what credibility has a "reliable local survey", which can't even correctly spell names of several big cities?! Isn't trashcan the most appropriate place for such "surveys"?

Yeah, what kind of organization is the WHO anyway! Anyway, it was JJ's link

Originally Posted by dzh

Проставляйся =)))

Be entered? I think Babelfish might be missing something!!

Originally Posted by Niamh

Originally Posted by dzh

Проставляйся =)))

Be entered? I think Babelfish might be missing something!!

hehe.
http://masterrussian.net/mforum/viewtopic.php?t=7072
Russian is definitely a word-rich language when it comes to talking about drinking (what a surprise!!)

Посмотрите "Spain" на "Who"!!! Е там пилось...

Yes Kalinka_vinnie, we live in a puddle of alcohol.
I have just read your post about alcoholism in Russia.
And must admit it’s saddening.

The main reason I am learning Russian is because I would like to travel there with a show about the prevention of abuse of alcohol amongst youth.
I am not against the drinking of alcohol but believe that we all have the right to make mistakes. But well being well informed, it’s difficult to make them.

If anyone is interested please check www.teatromimo.com in the section Projects under the name of Getting straight through.

Thankyou for the info.