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Okay, thanks. Your last line there probably sums it up. I'll look out for this more as I read on, it ought to turn up quite a lot, I think.

Thanks, thats pretty comprehensive. It looked to me like a 'style' thing, I wanted to make sure there wasn't some big semantic difference, which it seems there isnt.

Yes, That was a silly mistake...
In which case what I mean is, why сами not мы?

'мы уважаем ваши большие знания, но сами по этому вопросу придерживаемся другой точки зрения.' (Bulgakov)
This sentence indicates that 'we on this matter hold to a different point of view', I think....