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I'm actually not a big fan of the 'what if' game. Perhaps Johanna would address your point better. I merely explained one of the sources for the 'multinational consensus'. By the way, there was no...

I don't think that's quite right. You could probably say that about the difference between "the glad acknowledgment of the higher race superiority" and "the victory of freedom/democracy". But the...

Yes! B-U-T!!! The victory would not be tied with the "multinational consensus", but with something more like: "the lower races have naturally and gladly acknowledged the borne superiority of the high...

Ok, so there are a couple of points you mentioned.

First, regarding the "humanitarian action" vs "economically motivated". Of course that was economically motivated! I think I mentioned before...

Here's a good introductory article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

"The great majority of the military forces in the coalition were from the United States, with Saudi Arabia, the United...

Nah, those were the home-grown ones. Can't share, sorry. :oops:

Hear out, young mammal, for your heart the conspiracy senses, the truth you seek. Be known to you that our mighty race of Reptilians had ruled this world for the countless millennia, until the...

I have to agree with DDT here. All wars are economically motivated (however disguised). The sole purpose of a national army is to promote or defend the national economy. By definition. For example:...

You would do a great Ramil. :mosking:

Ok, so let me ask you a question. When Russia was governed by Yeltzin it was "playing" with the "Money Men" (and only did what it was allowed to) and now...

Well, I've never used to be in a favour of the second Iraq war (even though I didn't in particular like Saddam Hussein). I think he should have been ousted during the first Iraq war when there were...

Which is not bad, but surely is not enough to qualify as an army. A bunch of people who can aim and pull the trigger are not soldiers yet. It takes about a week for a tyro to start shooting his rifle...

I think it would be fair to mention that the same is applicable to any country (unless being invaded).

And what does "be prepared" would practically mean these days? Should I have a private jet in my backyard and learn how to fly it once in a while in case I would need to defend the country?

I think the threat itself is still somewhat better than a single nuke that slipped through the cracks. :roll:

Johanna, please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to offend you or anyone else. And I'm really sorry if I did. I'm just trying to have an open conversation. And the fact that you posted in Politics...

Yeah... unfortunately an army doesn't usually work that way. It costs a lot to build a base, a lot to maintain the base, and a lot to dismantle the base. And then, if the base is required again (as...

By the way, I'm sorry I have misread your post. I was partially mislead by the fact that according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_dist ... _of_wealth the US alone owns 32.65% of the world's...

Canada is also a NATO member and it respects the treaties. If you think Europe should desert a military treaty (NATO) I think you should have a really good point. Something more profound than: "Well...

You aren't serious, are you? ;) Earlier, you said there are still some US bases across Europe. And how many are there European bases across the US? Anything close to Cuba to help the US out? So who's...

Interesting... what makes you think it's a good idea?


What an interesting and unusual point of view ... You might consider to have some background research before you're saying anything like...

I think that is true until the point there are so many "defenses" that they somehow start firing. And then, of course, there's the nuclear parity rule - "I need a nuclear bomb because you have (or...

Um... I somewhat find it hard to believe that almost ANY country would have "aggressive intentions". The governments might. And the governments change... from aggressive to defensive and vise versa....