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one can promise anything. But the 2nd episode of the circus was surely fun to watch, even better than the first one ))) i knew it would be ))

That's what public politics is like anywhere, although I agree that Ukraine's one is more fractuos than most. It's not necessarily such a bad thing in itself, and it is definitely preferrable to...

It sure is. You just have to get rid of the commies first :lol:

Yes, that's what those sneaky bicyclists deserve.
They are all probably commies anyway, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they had secretly conducted military style parades at night, when...

ahhh... I suggest that maybe you go study some history, learn a bit about those countries and about who the commies actually are, and then come back to argue with people who actually know what was...

All those revolutions were to get rid of the communist government in those nations. Unless Belarus is currently run by communists or facing the unfortunate possibility of having a commie run for...

There's not much "turning away": western Ukraine is generally anti-russian (and always was such), eastern Ukraine is mostly pro-russian (and remains such). The only thing changed is regime.[/quote]
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I don't think if you had anyone at that moment.[/quote]
That's Mr. Yanukovich for you. In the context of this discussion he was "Putin-like" enough, which is why we did not want him.


Ok, as I...

Открою страшную тайну. Не знаю как там Госдеп :) но я тоже финансировал оранжевых. Как ты понимаешь, это означает что Ющенко пришел к власти благодаря мне, и теперь он -- моя марионетка. Так!
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Конечно. Просто это правильное мнение :)
А отсутствие заговора человеку, в него верящему, доказать невозможно.

hehe. Do read that article, it's about you :)

Ну а я бы то же самое сказал про тебя. Вот прямо в этом треде можешь наблюдать пример с твоим, в целом, единомышленником: как у людей создают уверенность в чем-то при отсутствии фактов.
В...

If nothing else - the fact that there political censorship and the restrictions of "freedom of speech" are in force in the contemporary USA.
Along with many other restrictions that are incompatible...

Sorry, but you are a bit hard to understand in places. You may write in Russian if that's easier for you.



That's what public politics is like anywhere, although I agree that Ukraine's one is...

I see this becoming more of a religious discussion, and such generaly do not produce much results. You are apparently using some idealized definitions of your own invention, and there is little that...

You may be right -- most probably, under Shewardnadze life was better, than under Saakashvili's regime. (I'm almost 100% sure it wasn't worse ;) )[/quote]

Why? Do you know anyone in Georgia who...

У меня бы уже язык не повернулся назвать это коалицией. Одно название. Коалиция - это несколько групп с совпадающими если не интересами, то хотя бы целями.[/quote]

Мне не совсем понятно, почему...

I must agree on the evaluation of the current breed of the Russian right as sore losers (although it does not seem to me that they play the game any dirtier than anyone else). One thing the Ukrainian...

Угу, только вот не вместе они нифига теперь (только номинально). И не будет у президента большинства в Раде.[/quote]

And so what? They were together in 2004. They won together in 2004. Now they've...

Если хочешь, могу прислать тебе мою переписку с украинскими ребятами того времени. Всё говорили, что пройдёт год-два и Ющенко и Тимошенко сделают из Украины богатейшее государство :)[/quote]

If...

Did you mean that the life under Schewardnaze's regime was much better? :)[/quote]

You may be right -- most probably, under Shewardnadze life was better, than under Saakashvili's regime. (I'm...

No, that's not useful, but that's how Ukrainians are :) There is a Ukrainian saying, "gde dva ukrainca tam tri het'mana". This has always been a major source of our troubles.

Did you mean that the life under Schewardnaze's regime was much better? :)

Hardly.



I have never seen anyone who really thought that everyone will suddenly become "rich and fine".
Still, it's quite obvious that the choice that was made was the right one and you will...