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Ok, Barm, let's roll our eyes at each other

:roll:

Let's not get into that discussion, it might stir up some bad feelings. I prefer civility. Let's just say I feel like rolling my eyes when I hear words like patriotism and nationalism.

I quite agree with your first statement but the second one is not tenable. Are you sure that Americans are poor and this is the main reason why they join the army? Or do I have to take it on...

Reasons why Americans join the army:

1) They are patriotic and want to defend their country [no rolling eye emoticon here]
2) They are poor and see the army as a way to get out of poverty. The...

Join the army, see the world, meet interesting people and then kill them.