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Wait, let me get this clear. You don't believe it's possible for humanitarian concerns to be a motivation for supporting intervention? Is that really what you're saying?


That's exactly what...

OK, let me illustrate my objection to your hysterical reasoning by just firing your own words back at you:



See, it's perfectly possible to be in favour of intervention for exactly the same...

Where have I said I am for it?

I don't think I've actually stated my opinion on NATO's involvement one way or the other. All I've done is point out the hysterical irrationality of some of the...

Of course it's spin. At least partly. It's not inconceivable that the intervention saved lives, but humanitarian concerns were at least as much a pretext for getting rid of Gadaffi as a genuine...

That's an argument in favour of interventions that didn't happen, not an argument against those that did.

It's all a lie, Nulle. Every single media outlet in the world, from FOX News to The Guardian and from Al Jazeera to Mainichi Shimbun, even those that are vocally opposed to NATO's involvement in...

Push healthy scepticism or cynicism too far and it becomes indistinguishable from drooling gullibility.

Jesus. I think reading this thread caused my IQ to drop several points.