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by **nadavvin** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:59 pm

Hello

I learn the alphabetic from this site:
http://langintro.com/rintro/index.htm

and I learn some words from this:
http://www.ilike2learn.com/ilike2learn/ ... index.html

and from then I read news from Google news in Russian and translate the words with Google translation tools, and copy some of the word to Wordquiz:
http://peterandlinda.com/wordquiz/index.php
Actually to Kwordquiz which is the Linux version of it.

but it is boring....
also to learn words which not connect to anything it's boring.

How can I learn Russian in not boring way?

for example, other languages have advantages like Spanish and Japanese since there have fun unique culture ( soap opera and anime, manga)

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by **Lampada** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:16 pm

nadavvin wrote:...How can I learn Russian in not boring way? ...

My advice: try to listen to songs and memoraze some sentences. You can choose from here:
http://masterrussian.net/mforum/viewfor ... 6ed8432297

by **Оля** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:35 pm

nadavvin wrote:How can I learn Russian in not boring way?

Maybe watching films?

by **vox05** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:54 pm

nadavvin wrote:Hello

I learn the alphabetic from this site:
http://langintro.com/rintro/index.htm

omfg. This
http://langintro.com/rintro/rsnd/wroom.wav
or this
http://langintro.com/rintro/rsnd/bill.wav
is totally wrong.
Or, here
http://langintro.com/rintro/rsnd/softdrnk.wav
'i' is wrongfullly accented in addition to stress on last syllable.
And,
http://langintro.com/rintro/rsnd/kvass.wav
here comes aspirated k... ( where should be unaspirated ), and for some reasons pronounced as 'kfasss'

http://langintro.com/rintro/rsnd/coffee.wav
Kofyyyye. ( as he was taught to pronounce 'e' like in 'yet'. Now that's forever.
and
http://langintro.com/rintro/rsnd/lunch.wav
obyyyed.
And... For Russian speakers !
http://langintro.com/rintro/rsnd/bread.wav"
guess what is it?

and I learn some words from this:
http://www.ilike2learn.com/ilike2learn/ ... index.html

Much better, however have problems with leading ( and only leading ) 'r', pronouncing it like 't' or 'p'.

and from then I read news from Google news in Russian and translate the words with Google translation tools, and copy some of the word to Wordquiz:
http://peterandlinda.com/wordquiz/index.php
Actually to Kwordquiz which is the Linux version of it.

but it is boring....
also to learn words which not connect to anything it's boring.

How can I learn Russian in not boring way?

for example, other languages have advantages like Spanish and Japanese since there have fun unique culture ( soap opera and anime, manga)[/quote]

Well... Recodred ( in soviet times ) classic theatre plays? At least is't easy to obtain subtitles for it. I don't consider listening to something without understanding at least 50% is useful.

by **Vbar** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:18 pm

other languages have advantages like Spanish and Japanese since there have fun unique culture ( soap opera and anime, manga)

Even though
culture has been defined as "a luxury; an elite's prestige commodity; a simple aesthetic appreciation; (or) solely a folkloric epiphenomenon."
(Verhelst T. 1990, No Life Without Roots, London, Zed Books, p.17),

and

the UNESCO Universal Declaration on Cultural Diversity, proclaims:
Culture takes diverse forms across time and space (Article 1),

it is pretty hard to accept that whimsical and fanciful idea of “culture” in connection with “soap opera” and “anime”. (Globalization of Culture ?)

I cannot but suggest you to read the first paragraph of this good piece of advice:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learn ... ge65.shtml

And to finish with, a well known didactic story.

There's a story about a teacher who told his students: “You know you're making progress in Russian when you speak in Russian , think in Russian , and dream in Russian . “

One day a student came into the class very excited and said, "Teacher, Teacher, last night I dreamt in Russian ." The teacher said, "That's wonderful. What did you dream about?" And the student said, "I don't know, it was in Russian ."

by **Remyisme** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:23 pm

Naddavin, if you live in Israel, there are Russian tv channels, there is a channel, that has old Russian movies 24 hours a day, you can watch them, or ask your Russian coleagues, about famous movies that they know it might help you may be?
May be you should try to watch Russian cartoons? We have cartoons and songs and movies and fun just like every other culture has.

by **Remyisme** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:54 pm

Naddavin, May be this lessons will be helpful to you, try them.

RL101 - 1 :Some Enchanted Evening to learn Russian!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlJw08uMvE4

RL101 - 2 : The Six Letters That Are The Same
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj9B-d7iDkw

RL101 - 3: Six Letters that look the same but are different!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnq0LrVauTQ

RL101 - 4 The next five letters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eoN46jprhU

RL101 - 5 Revision of the first 17 letters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly_XZFHFYPs

RL101 - 6 The Next Five - 2/3 of the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSzIXXkl3U

RL101 - 7 The Sibilants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuyP2x8vRDU

RL101 - 8: The Missing Vowels - part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbdzd-BNC-U

RL101 - 8: The Missing Vowels - part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3OidoFoo2A

RL101 - 9 Soft sign, hard sign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wbyiBKeFKI

RL101 - 10 Russkaya Azbuka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDEYGwDEahc

RL102 - 1 Basic Russian grammar lesson 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUVNA_loG_o

RL102 - 2 Basic Russian grammar lesson 2 part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS6ksHAT4sY

RL102 - 2 Basic Russian grammar lesson 2 part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F0eH5paKW4

RL102 - 3 Basic Russian grammar lesson 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnp--PtRajc

RL102 - 4/1 Basic Russian grammar lesson 4 part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQKfQIZRFVY

RL102 - 4/2 Basic Russian grammar lesson 4 part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtXb19sMu7g

Roll your "r"s now, baybee!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPIpTERosZY

RL102 - 5/1 Basic Russian grammar lesson 5 part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSLtHXrwm30

RL102 - 5/2 Basic Russian grammar lesson 5 part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87o6TS3rUaw

RL102 - 6/1 Basic Russian grammar lesson 6 part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_RYKpYfg0

RL102 - 6/2 Basic Russian grammar lesson 6 part two (corr)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJW-IamMaCs

Gold List Method for learning to L/T memory part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6FERpM5fQ

Gold List Method for learning to L/T memory part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTyJiGVJ0LM

RL102 - 7 Basic Russian grammar lesson 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaPCFWLN5uI

by **scotcher** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:50 am

You could study while wearing a clown suit.

by **kamka** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:37 pm

I don't think there's a fun way of learnign a language if you start from the very beginning

In the initial phase of studying you just need to learn certain things by heart, and that's never fun.
The less boring techniques, such as learning from songs etc, are only possible if you have already reached some more advanced level, in my opinion

but good luck to you, nonetheless

by **Оля** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:50 pm

kamka wrote:I don't think there's a fun way of learnign a language if you start from the very beginning

Oh, I think it's movies, movies!

by Ty » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:29 pm

Remyisme wrote:Naddavin, May be this lessons will be helpful to you, try them.

RL102 - 7 Basic Russian grammar lesson 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaPCFWLN5uI

In this one he sings the old Russian National Anthem and the new one. Interesting.

by **capecoddah** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:44 pm

kamka wrote:I don't think there's a fun way of learnign a language if you start from the very beginning In the initial phase of studying you just need to learn certain things by heart, and that's never fun.

I have to agree, basic learning isn't too much fun. Like learning multiplication tables. You hate the teacher until your calculator dies, then after you balance your bank account with a pencil, he is a hero. Take a class if you can!!!! One of my Russian friends took my "Learn to Speak Russian in 10 Minutes a Day" book from me until I mastered some basic words and how to use them. I was VERY upset! When I send her an e-mail now I say all the personal pronouns and the question words. Tough out the first lessons.

Now where are these Russian cartoons? A Belarusian friend loved watching the Simpsons with me after the news at 11:30 (if a Red Sox game wasn't on, then she'd be mad!).

by **Wowik** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:55 am

Оля wrote:
kamka wrote:I don't think there's a fun way of learnign a language if you start from the very beginning

Oh, I think it's movies, movies!

Cartoons!

Or children books or magazines.

by **nadavvin** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:58 pm

Оля wrote:
kamka wrote:I don't think there's a fun way of learnign a language if you start from the very beginning

Oh, I think it's movies, movies!

I can't learn language from watching movies or tv, since it's not help much in other language like English (or at least I think that is not useful for me).

So I think about comics, which is only talking and there are pictures to help the understanding, so I search in Google for "russian comics" which give me this site: http://www.comics.ru/e/ which is even better since it focus in learning Russian and have the English version of the comics to help the understanding.

by **nadavvin** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:13 am

Something is very strange:
I read the first comics:
Russian version: http://www.comics.ru/8/2502.htm
English version: http://www.comics.ru/e/e2502.htm?Np=0

The problem is in the picture in the bottom left:
In Russian: "Het я серьёзно"
In English: "Do you mean it?"

p.s.

Thanks all the links, I check them latter.

by **Matroskin Kot** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:54 pm

The problem is in the picture in the bottom left:
In Russian: "Het я серьёзно"
In English: "Do you mean it?"

A better translation into English would be "Come on, I'm serious."

It's not a mistranslation exactly, because the sense is correct, but I would use these translations as a very general guide -- not be taken as gospel.

Here is some manga (Japanese comics) which is much more interesting, and better translated to boot.

http://www.mangaproject.ru/Manga/FLCL/index.php

Furi Kuri is a very cool manga/anime. Try it, you'll like it.

by **nadavvin** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:10 am

Here is some manga (Japanese comics) which is much more interesting, and better translated to boot.

http://www.mangaproject.ru/Manga/FLCL/index.php

Furi Kuri is a very cool manga/anime. Try it, you'll like it.

Thanks

But what is the letter "/\" which found in the word "бц/\цсъ" in this picture:
http://hozt.net/image.php?img=20070623030418742296.png

Is there the text versions of the pictures to easy copy it for translate it?

by **Indra** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:04 am

nadavvin wrote:But what is the letter "/" which found in the word "бц/\цсъ" in this picture:
http://hozt.net/image.php?img=20070623030418742296.png

Is there the text versions of the pictures to easy copy it for translate it?

It is "бились"="they fighted"

by **nadavvin** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:05 pm

Here is some manga (Japanese comics) which is much more interesting, and better translated to boot.

http://www.mangaproject.ru/Manga/FLCL/index.php

Furi Kuri is a very cool manga/anime. Try it, you'll like it.

Thanks you very much!!!

It is very help, and it really fun to learn Russian and it is not boring.
I download also the English version of the same anime and I show the both.

The bubbles placed in the same places so I only need to move from window to window with only alt+tab without moving the eye.

so I moving many, even in the parts of the bubbles and I learn many words and basic grammar.

It is excellent way to learn any language.

by **basurero** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:46 am

scotcher wrote:You could study while wearing a clown suit.

Спасибо. Я попробовал этот метод изучения и вправду он мне помогает во многом.

by **nadavvin** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:54 pm

Is there any good Russian's comics available in the web? So I can know a little about the Russian's culture instead of Japanese's culture?

by **BappaBa** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:43 am

nadavvin wrote:Is there any good Russian's comics available in the web? So I can know a little about the Russian's culture instead of Japanese's culture?

Повесть о настоящем человеке
http://www.comicsposter.ru/rus/maresyev3.html

by **nadavvin** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:07 pm

Is there lyrics in the web for this song?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Ur6Ijr ... ed&search=

What is the name of the song?

Are there video clips with subtitles?

by **Lampada** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:05 pm

nadavvin wrote:Is there lyrics in the web for this song?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Ur6Ijr ... ed&search=
What is the name of the song?
Are there video clips with subtitles?

В Петербурге сегодня гроза

Поёт Алла Пугачёва

1. Ты не слушай, что дождь обо мне тебе шепчет обманчивый,
И не верь, будто гром знает что-то про нас неприличное
Он лишь отзвук грозы, уходящей лениво и вкрадчиво,
А гроза за окном просто старая дева двуличная.
Ты не верь облакам в вышине, пролетающим с севера,
Не смотри за окно на пугающий блеск электричества,
Ты не верь в темноте аромату душистого клевера,
Ты почувствуй меня в обжигающий миг одиночества.

Пр: В Петербурге сегодня гроза, на ресницах застыла слеза,
Ты мой милый родной человек, расстаёмся, как будто навек.
Расстаёмся, как будто навек, на душе тихо падает снег,
Ты звонков моих больше не жди. В Петербурге сегодня дожди.

2. Под скандалищный гром и под зарницу кровавую алую,
Ты подумай о том, что тебе рассказала бессонница,
Посиди и поплачь в темноте, словно девочка малая,
Под раскатистый гром, что в окно непрошено ломится.
Ты подумай о том, что дожди на планете не вечные,
Будет сново луна от хорошей погоды чуть пьяная,
А гроза за окном, как явление столь быстротечное,
Ты поверь всё опять начинается заново.

Пр.

by **nadavvin** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:24 am

Thank you very much.

by **gRomoZeka** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:24 am

nadavvin wrote:Is there any good Russian's comics available in the web? So I can know a little about the Russian's culture instead of Japanese's culture?

Comics from "History of Russia" series:

1) Дмитрий Донской. Куликовская битва - 4,5 Mb
http://rapidshare.com/files/26648665/Donskoy.rar

2) Александр Невский - защитник русской земли - 3,5 Mb
http://rapidshare.com/files/27219661/Nevskiy.rar

3) Гроза 1812 года (О событиях Отечественной войны 1912 года) - 6 Mb
http://rapidshare.com/files/26508796/1812.rar

Russian Literature:

1) Анна Каренина (Л. Толстой) - 32 Mb
http://rapidshare.com/files/22734555/AKbLT.rar

2) Голова профессора Доуэля (А. Беляев, фантастика) - 6 Mb
http://rapidshare.com/files/21980024/Dowell.rar

3) Азазель (Б. Акунин, исторический детектив) - 10 Mb
http://natahaus.ifolder.ru/1354307

All links are fine, but may expire soon.
Some books are not in their best quality. Not my fault.

by **nadavvin** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:02 pm

All links are fine, but may expire soon.

I can't download any of them, I come to page which seen like this:
http://hozt.net/image.php?img=20070704230254145843.jpg

by **Ramil** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:09 pm

nadavvin wrote:
All links are fine, but may expire soon.

I can't download any of them, I come to page which seen like this:
http://hozt.net/image.php?img=20070704230254145843.jpg

Have you tried to read what's written there?

Click FREE, then enter a code you'd see in the provided textbox then downloading starts.

by **charlestonian** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:06 am

BappaBa wrote:
nadavvin wrote:Is there any good Russian's comics available in the web? So I can know a little about the Russian's culture instead of Japanese's culture?

Повесть о настоящем человеке
http://www.comicsposter.ru/rus/maresyev3.html

What a cr@p!

by **nadavvin** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:22 am

Ramil wrote:
nadavvin wrote:
All links are fine, but may expire soon.

I can't download any of them, I come to page which seen like this:
http://hozt.net/image.php?img=20070704230254145843.jpg

Have you tried to read what's written there?

Click FREE, then enter a code you'd see in the provided textbox then downloading starts.

thanks

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