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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    Позвольте меня представить короткометражный "кукольный фильм", который я снял в прошлом году для YouTube. В самом начале, я слегка насмехаюсь над российским "Запретом", а в основном я смеюсь над "своими" -- именно, обидчивые геи-активисты, которые постоянно реагируют на всякую критику (либо разумную либо бестолковую) с типичной театральностью -- гнев, слёзы, и нарушения "Закона Годвина". Короче -- я смеюсь над тем, кому относится выражение "Don't be a Drama-Queen!" ...П
    Позвольте мне представить

    После В самом начале не нужна запятая.

    Мой вариант. Я смеюсь над "своими", а именно: обидчивыми геями-активистами, которые постоянно, с типичной театральностью, остро реагируют на всякую критику (разумную ли, или бестолковую). Там что хотите: и гнев, и слёзы, и даже нарушение закона Годвина.

    Короче, я смеюсь над теми, к кому относится...
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    Maybe a little bit offtopic, but... Haven't you ever wondered why in the 21st century there are still countries that have anti-porn laws? I mean, "normal", "traditional" heterosexual porn. Check this out:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region

    Apparently, no less than 2 dozen countries around the world make porn illegal. Now how can this ever be explained - like you cannot watch on a screen what you actually do every day? That's absurd. Now, I think I can make a guess - just look closer at those dark red countries. With very few exceptions, those are countries that don't really favor democracy or their people's well-being, but rather carry out tyrannies of one man, or a limited group of men. Obviously, those tyrants need total control over people, and a mechanism to prevent them from realizing that they're better off without the dictatorship. And as both Freud and Orwell wrote, sexuality is human's strongest instinct. So, control over people's sexuality gives them control over people, so they speak. Now, I may be right or wrong, but I think the "gay issues" in many countries have similar background.

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    Apparently, no less than 2 dozen countries around the world make porn illegal. Now how can this ever be explained - like you cannot watch on a screen what you actually do every day? That's absurd. Now, I think I can make a guess - just look closer at those dark red countries. With very few exceptions, those are countries that don't really favor democracy or their people's well-being, but rather carry out tyrannies of one man, or a limited group of men. Obviously, those tyrants need total control over people, and a mechanism to prevent them from realizing that they're better off without the dictatorship. And as both Freud and Orwell wrote, sexuality is human's strongest instinct. So, control over people's sexuality gives them control over people, so they speak. Now, I may be right or wrong, but I think the "gay issues" in many countries have similar background.
    Err... a lot of those countries seem pretty religious (China being an obvious exception). Isn't a more likely explanation for the restrictions is that they believe porn is a sin?

    I seriously doubt there are many dictators worried that porn will lead to the people realizing that they are better off without a dictatorship.

    Exactly how would this work? So people would watch porn and then...? I don't understand your reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist12 View Post
    Err... a lot of those countries ...
    Привет, Chemist12! Have you made any progress in your Russian?
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    Hi Lampada!

    I have not made to much progress with the language (I have made some).

    To be honest, learning languages is something I struggle a lot more with compared to other areas of study.

    However, while trying to learn Russian I became very interested in Russia as a place. So I have learned a lot about Russian politics and government. I find it really interesting. It is also the sort of thing I find quite natural to learn about.

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    Err... a lot of those countries seem pretty religious (China being an obvious exception). Isn't a more likely explanation for the restrictions is that they believe porn is a sin?

    I seriously doubt there are many dictators worried that porn will lead to the people realizing that they are better off without a dictatorship.

    Exactly how would this work? So people would watch porn and then...? I don't understand your reasoning.
    Heh, no. Dictators think that they know better, what is useful for people and country, they cultivate their ideas, and does not tolerate other opinions. So, if porn isn't part of their system of values, they prohibit it.

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    Err... a lot of those countries seem pretty religious (China being an obvious exception). Isn't a more likely explanation for the restrictions is that they believe porn is a sin?

    I seriously doubt there are many dictators worried that porn will lead to the people realizing that they are better off without a dictatorship.

    Exactly how would this work? So people would watch porn and then...? I don't understand your reasoning.
    Heh, no. Dictators think that they know better, what is useful for people and country, they cultivate their ideas, and does not tolerate other opinions. So, if porn isn't part of their system of values, they prohibit it.
    Okay, that could very well be the reason.

    However, this does not explain Eric Cs view that the dictators prevent people from watching porn to stop them from overthrowing him or her.

    So, control over people's sexuality gives them control over people, so they speak.
    How does control over porn (by banning it), prevent uprisings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist12 View Post
    Okay, that could very well be the reason.

    However, this does not explain Eric Cs view that the dictators prevent people from watching porn to stop them from overthrowing him or her.



    How does control over porn (by banning it), prevent uprisings?
    From what I've studied, tyrannies often rely on control of people's sexuality as a way of zombifying people. If they can tell everyone how/how often/with whom to f*ck, that will ultimately make ppl more "obedient", satisfied with any BS they're given, and less likely to ever consider strikes or uprisings. Typically, that sort of agenda includes a total ban on porn.

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    From what I've studied, tyrannies often rely on control of people's sexuality as a way of zombifying people.
    It's very common theory, however I don't believe in that. I think, dictators are not so clever, they are just people, who wish impose their world view and lifestyle on all people, and when someone follows by another way, dictators fly into a rage. So, it's not question of sexuality, it's question of control and power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex80
    И уже не будет негативным. Всё. Общество рано или поздно поставлено перед фактом, что за избиение гея в подворотне придётся отвечать по закону. Полицейские в машине на видео выше уже не негодуют и гневаются, а смеются. Открытый гей вызвал не гнев, а смех. Дальше за смехом - пренебрежение, а дальше за пренебрежением - признание.
    Процесс запущен.
    Думаю, в этом есть зерно истины. Сегодня наткнулся в Ютубе на видео, вторая часть которого отчасти иллюстрирует сказанное Алексом80. Правда, из этого же видео ясно, насколько для русских гомосексуальные отношения всё ещё остаются чем-то экзотичным и диковинным.



    Кстати, этот ролик был снят после того, как та же группа провела другой эксперимент. Форум не позволяет публиковать в одном сообщении несколько видеороликов, поэтому дам просто ссылку: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgm3lb9JUU0, но там всё печальнее. Лично меня расстраивает поведение некоторых недовольных людей на улице. Можно, конечно, по-разному относиться к вещам нашей жизни, но всё-таки ТАКАЯ реакция, по моему мнению, недопустима. И после этого некоторые наши медийные "философы" уверяют, что Россия, якобы, может предложить миру некий образец высоко духовной цивилизации...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Звездочёт View Post
    Лично меня расстраивает поведение некоторых недовольных людей на улице.
    Поведение комментаторов на ютюбе, пишущих "Russians are animals." и "How do countries like this still exist?", ничем не отличается.

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    Поведение комментаторов на ютюбе, пишущих "Russians are animals." и "How do countries like this still exist?", ничем не отличается.
    Комментарии на Ютубе, да и вообще в социальных сетях и блогах, никогда не отвечали высоким стандартам. По моему мнению им не стоит придавать слишком уж большого значения. И совсем другое дело безобразное поведение на улице, которое является уже откровенным хулиганством.

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    В душе эти люди одинаковы. Просто дрессировка разная.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFox View Post
    В душе эти люди одинаковы. Просто дрессировка разная.
    В душе очень многие люди следуют установившемуся паттерну поведения - поскорее закончить с мытьем, и выйти из душа. =))

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    В душе эти люди одинаковы. Просто дрессировка разная.
    Ну, может быть, Вы и правы.

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