Thread: Controversial Problems in Russian and Some Other Societies

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Interesting. This is more confirmation of the hypocrisy and brainwashing by the Russian government (see Putin). Implement a bogus law and then promote the brainwashing and indoctrination via TV programming.

For the people here (probably Americans who might not know), this video is from Channel One Russia, which is owned, operated and controlled by the Government. There's also RTR which is another state-sponsored network (division) which televises the same drivel and 'left-wing' western style indoctrination.

More evidence about the two-faced, hypocritical Putin regime.

Channel One Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So Russia's got state TV like any other European country? So they are not radically against the government? What a surprise. Who cares? Nowadays there are plenty of commercial junk alternatives for those who prefer that flavour of TV.

Why would Russians be any more brainwashed than anyone else? In fact, you just need to read the comments here, to see that Russians are more cynical and pragmatic about politics than most people, and they certainly don't trust what they hear on TV. They have access to the same media and junk entertainment as anyone else. YOU are the one who is brainwashed if you don't realise that, and your comments are insulting to the "hosts" of the site, who are here to help people learn their language. So peg it down a notch or two would you.

Leave it to the Russians to complain about Putin! You don't have to live in a country run by Putin & co, so why should you care?

In fact, we are seeing a much wider spread in political and social views from the Russians and Ukrainians visiting the forum, than any other groups. Regular Russian visitors here include Pro West/USA fans, communists, anarchists, conservatives and plenty of other alternatives.
How does that tie in with your brainwashing? I'd say it's completely fictional.

Either way, who cares? It's their country and they can be as brainwashed as they like. It's not like Russians don't know how to overthrow a leader when they get enough, like they did, twice in the last century. Anyway; my impression is that they are LESS brainwashed than the average European or American.


EDIT: Further reason why Russia is sounder: We've got freakin' internet censorship in the UK!! In Russia people can do whatever they like online. And it's getting worse here every day.
There are about 10 sites I regularly visit that are now blocked. Apparently porn will also shortly be banned. Doesn't bother me personally, I hate porn. But what will be next? RT.com perhaps? Far too radical.

In fact, PRESSTV is BANNED in the EU! They are not allowed to broadcast on any satellite over Europe. Nobody can watch this TV channel. To my knowledge there is no banned TV station in Russia, anyone can broadcast what they like in Russian language via satellite. So who is the victim of censorship?!

Mark my word: There be MORE political asylum seekers from the West, to Russia. Seriously.

Originally Posted by Hanna

So Russia's got state TV like any other European country? So they are not radically against the government? What a surprise. Who cares? Nowadays there are plenty of commercial junk alternatives for those who prefer that flavour of TV.

Sadly it is not yet true for Russia
Almost all free television in Russia is owned by government or sponsored by pro-government companies.
And there is not a single big TV channel owned by opposition. Moreover government tries to control business which is not a good thing for the country, plus it eliminates a chance for opposition to appear and grow.
The satellites aren't an option for major part of Russia - people are not accustomed to it, even in big cities

But because many Russians know that they are being brainwashed they try to resist it and tend not to trust TV that much

Originally Posted by Doomer

Sadly it is not yet true for Russia
Almost all free television in Russia is owned by government or sponsored by pro-government companies.
And there is not a single big TV channel owned by opposition. Moreover government tries to control business which is not a good thing for the country, plus it eliminates a chance for opposition to appear and grow.
The satellites aren't an option for major part of Russia - people are not accustomed to it, even in big cities

But because many Russians know that they are being brainwashed they try to resist it and tend not to trust TV that much

Ok, but there are no TV channels "owned by opposition" in Europe either! The whole point is that only the establishment and the state can afford to run a TV station.

There is state TV, and commercial TV. Both have essentially the same agenda but state TV tends to be more serious and commercial TV more "entertainment" oriented, and with ads.

There was one alternative cable TV channel broadcasting across Europe, challenging status quo in the UK and siding with the "little guy". They got banned off every single European satellite and the channel is no longer available on TV.

I can no more switch on the TV and expect to see somebody challenging the validity of the government in the UK than anyone in Russia can.
I think the accusation that media in Russia is censored is exaggerated.

Besides, this is not the Cold War era. There is the internet, Radio Liberty and any number of satellite channels for anyone in Russia who wants an alternative view.

Interestingly enough the most alternative English speaking channel right now, is RT (other than PressTV before it got banned - they still broadcast online though).

Originally Posted by Doomer

Sadly it is not yet true for Russia
Almost all free television in Russia is owned by government or sponsored by pro-government companies.
And there is not a single big TV channel owned by opposition. Moreover government tries to control business which is not a good thing for the country, plus it eliminates a chance for opposition to appear and grow.
The satellites aren't an option for major part of Russia - people are not accustomed to it, even in big cities

But because many Russians know that they are being brainwashed they try to resist it and tend not to trust TV that much

Doomer, looks like your information about current state of things in Russia is a bit outdated. From my experience, like 70-80% of households in Russia have at least 40-50 TV channels (satellite or cable) and only 6 of them are directly controlled by Federal goverment. I visited a small town Omutninsk in Kirov (Vyatka) region this year (it's my mother's native town) and every house there has a satellite TV plate, it's in the tiny town located in the middle of nowhere, i'm not talking about central parts of the country. Also most newspapers, radio stations and internet are not controlled at all. As for most Russians being sceptical about state propaganda you are right. No one I know don't take political programms and news at federal TV seriously because they look like this (sorry for non appropriate lexics at the picture):