Thread: Controversial Problems in Russian and Some Other Societies

Originally Posted by Deborski

Note that the dudes carrying the whips and attacking, beating, hitting gay protesters are wearing t-shirts which say "by the word of GOD."

Seems very Nazi to me. Just saying.

Very high chance that they are
One minority fights another minority

I remember a movie, where Bruce Willis stays on the street in the middle of "black neighborhood" wearing a sign that says - "I hate niggers". If I remember correctly he almost got killed, for wearing the sign(sounds awfully familiar when we talk about parades of any kind), so "if you happen to be a white guy - don't go the US", right, Deb?

Originally Posted by Doomer

Very high chance that they are
One minority fights another minority

I remember a movie, where Bruce Willis stays on the street in the middle of "black neighborhood" wearing a sign that says - "I hate niggers". If I remember correctly he almost got killed, for wearing the sign(sounds awfully familiar when we talk about parades of any kind), so "if you happen to be a white guy - don't go the US", right, Deb?

I'm not saying that it is WISE to hold a gay parade in the middle of a city where the majority of people despise gay people and think they should be executed.
But that doesn't excuse the actions of those who attacked and beat them, does it, Doomer?

By the way, I found this study fascinating and revealing (even though it confirmed something I've known for a long time):

Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn | Psychology Today

Anyway, I have no wish to further derail the Snowden thread into a debate about gay rights. As far as Russia goes, gays have no rights. But it saddens me that people are so easily distracted from the REAL ISSUES, by silly things like trying to control what others can or can't do in bed.

Originally Posted by Deborski

But that doesn't excuse the actions of those who attacked and beat them, does it, Doomer?

I don't think it excuses them, no
But I don't think we should blame one side and not to blame the other, as you were trying at the beginning.

Originally Posted by Doomer

I don't think it excuses them, no
But I don't think we should blame one side and not to blame the other, as you were trying at the beginning.

Doomer, we are never going to agree on this subject, and that is fine with me. But you live in the US now, not Russia, so surely you have had to do some thinking about this subject.

Originally Posted by Deborski

Doomer, we are never going to agree on this subject, and that is fine with me. But you live in the US now, not Russia, so surely you have had to do some thinking about this subject.

Well, about "born this way" stuff
Vision of two kissing men makes me sick and I want to puke
I'm fine with two kissing women though
IDK what good old Freud would make out of this but I guess "I'm born this way" and I don't want to see "vision of two kissing men" in real life, so I would always be against of that kind of "social activity", these things I'm sure of and they are plain and simple for me, the rest is propaganda of different kinds

Originally Posted by Doomer

Well, about "born this way" stuff
Vision of two kissing men makes me sick and I want to puke
I'm fine with two kissing women though
IDK what good old Freud would make out of this but I guess "I'm born this way" and I don't want to see "vision of two kissing men" in real life, so I would always be against of that kind of "social activity", these things I'm sure of and they are plain and simple for me, the rest is propaganda of different kinds

I was taught to think that way too.
But I learned, over the years, that it isn't that simple.
Like I said, I have many friends who are gay and lesbian. No one would CHOOSE to go through the hell they lived through. Many of them are shunned by their families. They have very hard, very tragic lives.
But you don't have to understand them or even agree with me about this. What I object to, is people who actively support violence against others because they are gay.