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    Say What? Items in the News

    We have all seen or heard them... the stories just too strange... and yet true.

    Post them here.

    And I have the PERFECT one to start us all off....

    Man arrested for making coffee in own home while naked‎!
    "A man in Northern Virginia is standing up for his right to make coffee in his kitchen naked"

    Gotta love the people in Virginia. She cuts through HIS front yard, looks in HIS window and he gets arrested!!!

    I like this link because it has the story in text AND a video news cast.
    http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=1790464&nid=25
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockzmom
    We have all seen or heard them... the stories just too strange... and yet true.
    I once saw my female neighbor (older, not attractive ) nude in the kitchen. Guess I should have reported it...no wait, this is Amerika, I would have been arrested as a peeping Tom!
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    Re: Say What? Silly Items in the News

    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    Quote Originally Posted by rockzmom
    We have all seen or heard them... the stories just too strange... and yet true.
    I once saw my female neighbor (older, not attractive ) nude in the kitchen. Guess I should have reported it...no wait, this is Amerika, I would have been arrested as a peeping Tom!
    Ahh Sperk, maybe you are on to something... maybe he wasn't "attractive" enough and that's why she called the cops! If he had been... well who knows??
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    Re: Say What? Silly Items in the News

    Quote Originally Posted by rockzmom
    Man arrested for making coffee in own home while naked‎!
    "A man in Northern Virginia is standing up for his right to make coffee in his kitchen naked"
    We discussed this one today. It appear even in the russian press
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    So here is the next one I saw that I could not believe...
    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Robeson...2.1251642.html

    Oct 15, 2009
    Why Did 1 In 7 Girls Get Pregnant At Robeson High?
    Officials Say A Mix Of Factors Are To Blame, As They Try To Help The Young Women

    It is a Chicago public school full of energy and spirit. It has about 800 girls, and 115 of them have something in common – something you might find disturbing. All those young ladies are moms or moms-to-be at Paul Robeson High School. It's not a school for young mothers, it's a neighborhood school. And all of the pregnancies have happened, despite prevention talk.

    If you want to know why, the people closest to the situation say there's no simple explanation.

    Chicago Public Schools says it does not track the overall number of teen moms in the district. But Robeson Principal Gerald Morrow knows the count at his school in Englewood: 115 young ladies who are either expecting or already have had children.

    To put it in perspective, their school pictures would fill roughly six pages of their high school year book.

    Why is it happening at Robeson?

    "It can be a lot of things that are happening in the home or not happening in the home, if you will," Morrow said. Absentee fathers are another factor, he said.

    LaDonna Denson and two other Robeson students say parents not talking to teens and, in some cases, the pursuit of public assistance also factor into the pregnancies. None of them thought they'd be moms at such a young age.

    They said they have support at home. But not all girls do, they said. In fact, some girls get thrown out of the home.

    Not on Morrow's turf. "We're not looking at them like 'Ooh you made a mistake,'" he said. "We're looking at how we can get them to the next phase, how can we still get them thinking about graduation?"

    So there's help in a teen parent program. And coming soon, right across from Robeson, developers are turning a one-time crack house into a day care for student use. "We have to provide some type of environment for them and some form of support for them," Van Vincent, CEO of VLV Development, said.

    It's all made an impression.

    "Just cause you have a baby, that doesn't mean your life is over," one student said.

    One thing they might not know about their principal: His mom had him when she was 15. That's why accepting the problem -- and working through it -- is so important to him.
    So, is this teen pregnancy thing (maybe on a smaller scale) a problem in other countries???

    Do they teach sex education in schools in other countries? In our county (school district), they start in 5th grade or about 10/11 years old. A parent CAN request that their child be pulled out of the lessons.
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    So this is another school than the one with the supposed pregnancy pact? Is the teen pregnancy rate as high in the rest of the US? I mean, not 1 in 7 of course, but higher than average (although I wouldn't know what average is).

    Here in Belgium I think it's not such a big issue. When I was in high school, I think maybe only a couple of girls got pregnant. We get sex ed as of the 6th grade. And I don't think parents can keep their kids out of those classes. They are part of our biology classes and later on of our religion classes too (to learn a healthy approach towards relationships).

    I'm really interested in hearing from other members of the board. This could turn into an interesting discussion.

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    Re: Say What? Items in the News

    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    So this is another school than the one with the supposed pregnancy pact?
    Yes, this is different then the school with the girls who had an "agreement" to get pregnant. When I had lunch with my older daughter today and mentioned to her that I had posted this her first question was "How many are from the same boy?"

    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    When I was in high school, I think maybe only a couple of girls got pregnant.
    Same here. There was one my junior year and one my senior year (or at least that is all I knew of as I skipped my senior year).

    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    Is the teen pregnancy rate as high in the rest of the US? I mean, not 1 in 7 of course, but higher than average (although I wouldn't know what average is).
    Good question! I am not certain and I don't know if the "average" changes depending upon the area of the country. Say a big city like Chicago or small town rural areas.

    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    They are part of our biology classes and later on of our religion classes too (to learn a healthy approach towards relationships).
    Interesting! Now did you attend a public school or private school?

    As my girls attend public school, religion can't be taught and that is also why parents can opt their kids out of the program. As that class also covers birth control and as that is a religious choice, parents have the right to pull them out. There was a BIG battle here in our county over a video that showed the children how to correctly place a ummm protective device shall I say on a certain part of the male. Their was NO actual male parts being shown! Yet the idea of kids being informed that they had choices INSTEAD of abstinence was the problem.

    Also the issue of teaching that "families" can be made up of not just a male and a female as in "Why does Susie have two moms?" was a hot topic in that curriculum.
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    Re: Say What? Items in the News

    Quote Originally Posted by rockzmom
    So here is the next one I saw that I could not believe...
    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Robeson...2.1251642.html

    Oct 15, 2009
    Why Did 1 In 7 Girls Get Pregnant At Robeson High?
    Officials Say A Mix Of Factors Are To Blame, As They Try To Help The Young Women
    soundz like a black thang.
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    I can not say a lot about the last thread but I think this is not normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockzmom
    Interesting! Now did you attend a public school or private school?

    As my girls attend public school, religion can't be taught and that is also why parents can opt their kids out of the program. As that class also covers birth control and as that is a religious choice, parents have the right to pull them out. There was a BIG battle here in our county over a video that showed the children how to correctly place a ummm protective device shall I say on a certain part of the male. Their was NO actual male parts being shown! Yet the idea of kids being informed that they had choices INSTEAD of abstinence was the problem.

    Also the issue of teaching that "families" can be made up of not just a male and a female as in "Why does Susie have two moms?" was a hot topic in that curriculum.

    Just to check if I understand the difference correctly: public schools in the US are government-funded and private schools aren't, right? Can private schools choose what they want to teach or do they still have to adhere to a set curriculum to which they can add stuff?

    So religion is never taught in public schools? Is sex-ed a subject on itself or is it part of biology class? Students don't have to take exams about the subject matter? Can't the school argue that birth control is related to biology? I mean, they could teach the kids what it is and the effect it has on the body (I'm talking about the pill of course) and remain neutral about using or not using it. That way the students know what it is, what it does and they can choose for themselves.


    In Belgium, we have two main types of schools (I'll talk about the exceptions later). We do have the governement-funded schools and than there are Catholic schools. But the Catholic schools are still partly government-funded.

    So back to the two main types of schools. In Catholic schools, obviously, religion is taught. Children in Belgium go to Catholic schools not because they (or their parents) are very religious, but mostly because those schools are sometimes considered better than the government-funded schools. I went to Catholic schools all my life (except for college) and there were also for example Muslim students. We praid in class (depended on the teacher) and went to mass once a month (in primary school), there was a cross in every classroom and of course religion was taught. But not in a "Christianity and Catholicism is the only way and believing in evolution is a sin"-kind of way. In primary school we learned mostly about Christianity. In high school we learned also about other world religions, and more about how we could be better persons and about a healthy approach to relationships (as I said). So sometimes it was more like an ethics course. Despite being a Catholic school, we were never told homosexuality is wrong or that we shouldn't use birth control.

    Now the government-funded schools offer a choice to students as to what kind of class they want to attend. They sometimes offer religion (Christianity, Islam) and than there is a sort of ethics course. There is a word for it in Dutch but I wouldn't know how to translate it. I never had the class but I would guess it basically is the kind of class we had in high school about ethics and how we can all live together.

    Now for the exceptions which I don't think are government-funded. There are schools like Steiner and Freinet. Than there are jewish (Chassidic) schools. I recently heard about a school for Protestant pupils. Unlike the Catholic schools, they are very focused on religion. They also only teach creationism. And there have been talks about opening a school for Muslims. In the beginning of the school year there was a heated debate about Muslim girls wearing the hijab to school so all of a sudden imams were talking about opening schools just for Muslim girls where they could wear the hijab.

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    Re: Say What? Items in the News

    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    Quote Originally Posted by rockzmom
    So here is the next one I saw that I could not believe...
    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Robeson...2.1251642.html

    Oct 15, 2009
    Why Did 1 In 7 Girls Get Pregnant At Robeson High?
    Officials Say A Mix Of Factors Are To Blame, As They Try To Help The Young Women
    soundz like a black thang.
    I would agree!

    This is not representative of US as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    Just to check if I understand the difference correctly: public schools in the US are government-funded and private schools aren't, right?
    Basically, Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    Can private schools choose what they want to teach or do they still have to adhere to a set curriculum to which they can add stuff?
    Each state has their own set of graduation requirements. So for Maryland, were I live, you need to have the following classes in order to graduate High School:
    • English 4 credits (and pass High School Assessment Exam)[/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • Mathematics 4 credits (1 credit algebra, 1 credit geometry & pass High School Assessment Exam for Algebra)[/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • Science 3 credits (1 biology credit and 2 that include a laboratory & High School Assessment Exam for Biology) [/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • Social Studies 3 credits (1 U.S. History credit; 1 World History credit; and 1 National, State, and Local Government credit & High School Assessment Exam for Gorvernment) [/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • Health Education 0.5 credit [/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • Physical Education 0.5 credit [/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • Fine Arts 1 credit (Selected courses in art, dance, drama/theater, and music)[/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • Technology Education 1 credit[/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • Foreign Language 2 credits[/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • 2.5 credits in elective courses [/*:m:1uowv5rl]
    • AND service learning hours or community service (in our area it is 75 hours)[/*:m:1uowv5rl]


    Now as long as the student has taken these core classes, the school can then offer other classes (electives) or teach in the style they see fit.

    Example: the school my daughters attend is a performing and visual arts school. All of the classes are taught with the arts in mind. So instead of doing maybe your usual boring book report, they might write a new ending to the book, create a play from that new ending, research the style of music and wardrobe from that time period and actually produce the play. That would cover their English, Social Studies & Art or Music classes all for this one project as they would work with all of those teachers on the same project. Or do a mock trial of Caesar in full costume, again, coordinating with different teachers and across different subjects.

    So private schools and public schools have a lot a room to teach what they would like as long as they get the main core stuff out of the way and keep the "test scores" up and the parents happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    So religion is never taught in public schools?
    I would not say NEVER. I remember last year in 7th grade old daughter had "ONE" lesson that covered different religions in her Social Studies (or as it used to be called "history") class.
    But pretty much, the answer for where we live, is no. Now in private schools, that would be a yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    Is sex-ed a subject on itself or is it part of biology class? Students don't have to take exams about the subject matter? Can't the school argue that birth control is related to biology? I mean, they could teach the kids what it is and the effect it has on the body (I'm talking about the pill of course) and remain neutral about using or not using it. That way the students know what it is, what it does and they can choose for themselves.
    Health Education is a seperate class. It is taught as a semester or 1/4 of a semester class. It goes into taking care of the body as a whole. Eating right, physical fitness as to how it is important, sleeping well, and then of course all the information about sex-ed. Each year prior to the courses starting they allow parents to come in and see the course materials and speak to the instructors. Ask questions and such. I always thought that in the beginning they should have the classes gender seperated and with gender like teachers. I know my girls did not like having the boys in the class and they had male teachers the first couple of years. It just made them all feel weirded out. Later on, they could then merge the classes back to co-ed.
    I looked online at the course information for 10th grade Biology and it seems to focus much more on plants and cells than humans! It seems there might be "some" wiggle room in the course for chats about humans and evolution.

    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    So back to the two main types of schools. In Catholic schools, obviously, religion is taught. Children in Belgium go to Catholic schools not because they (or their parents) are very religious, but mostly because those schools are sometimes considered better than the government-funded schools...
    The area I live in is rather "odd" as Montgomery County is a very good school district and people move here just so their children can attend school. So then the richer people don't want to have their children go to school with the "lower class" people. So they have their kids go to private school. We have sooooo many private schools around here... take your pick! Here are just a couple

    http://www.dswashington.org/ The German School
    http://www.rochambeau.org/ Lycée Rochambeau
    http://www.cesjds.org/ Charles E. Smith Jewish Day School
    http://www.stoneridge.org/ Stone Ridge School of the Sacred Heart (Catholic & for girls ONLY)
    http://www.sidwell.edu/ Sidwell Friends School (Quaker and where the President's daughters attend)
    http://www.britishschool.org/washington The British School


    Quote Originally Posted by devochka
    Than there are jewish (Chassidic) schools. I recently heard about a school for Protestant pupils. Unlike the Catholic schools, they are very focused on religion. They also only teach creationism. And there have been talks about opening a school for Muslims. In the beginning of the school year there was a heated debate about Muslim girls wearing the hijab to school so all of a sudden imams were talking about opening schools just for Muslim girls where they could wear the hijab.
    As you can see from above, we have a number of school where the religion is very focused. About the hijab... that is the only head covering ALLOWED in "our" public schools. No other hats or scarfs.
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    Maybe we can get some of you IT folks to fix this for us (they want 6 years to upgrade)?? It took me FOREVER to go what normally takes 10 minutes yesterday!!!

    And I don't care what they say, the computer system for the traffic lights AND for Metro BOTH crashing at the same time... hummm... sounds like a conspiracy to me. Or maybe the Russians did it! Oh, if you thought you would try to get off the surface roads and take the Beltway.... nope a car fire BOTH yesterday AND another one TODAY!

    Humming along with technology, until it's not
    Computer meltdown creates traffic-light chaos in Montgomery


    By Ashley Halsey III
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, November 5, 2009

    In the backdrop of so much of 21st-century life, computers are an unseen hand that guides the day in ways we rarely know about. Until they crash.

    Wednesday provided one such rude awakening for commuters in Montgomery County.

    A computer meltdown disrupted the choreography of 750 traffic lights, turning the morning and evening commutes into endless seas of red brake lights, causing thousands of drivers to arrive at work grumpy and late, and getting them home more frustrated and even later.

    Montgomery County officials said they will offer free bus rides all day Thursday, a decision made Wednesday night, even as county technicians worked feverishly to resurrect the faulty machine in time for the morning rush.

    "In case these efforts are not successful, we want to help provide commuters another option" by providing free access to Ride On buses, County Executive Isiah Leggett said in a statement.

    On Wednesday, commuters who thought they would slip around the chaos by detouring from their usual routes only found more problems. The tangles of traffic rippled from Veirs Mill Road to Rockville Pike to Old Georgetown Road to Interstate 270 and the spur.


    "At this time, the problem has not been fixed," Tim Firestine, a county administrator, said Wednesday as the last, late commuters inched toward home.

    Some of the worst of it radiated from an epicenter at Four Corners, as the heavily trafficked intersection of University Boulevard and Colesville Road in Silver Spring is known.

    And at dawn and dusk, cars backed up like a row of toppled dominoes once they reached the balky traffic signals on Connecticut Avenue.

    That a single computer failure can plunge an entire sector of the region into near gridlock underscored how fragile and overloaded the second-most congested urban area in the country has become.

    Before Wednesday, few Montgomery commuters knew, and even fewer probably cared, that a big computer in Rockville and a team of engineers working with it regulate the flow of traffic throughout the county.

    "Traffic normally is so congested, and I don't think people realize how much the signals control the flow until something like this happens," said county spokeswoman Esther Bowring.

    The system, which she described as "unique" in the Washington region, is based on a Jimmy Carter-era computer that sends signals to traffic lights all over the county. On weekday mornings, it tells them to stay green longer for people headed to work. And in the evenings, it tells them to stay green longer for people headed home.

    It also makes them all work together -- green-green-green -- to promote the flow of traffic. That happens automatically, and then the engineers use data from hundreds of traffic cameras and a county airplane to tweak the system. When there is an accident, breakdown or water main break, they use the computer to adjust signal times further and ease the congestion around the problem.

    It's great when it works, a disaster when it fails.

    The first inkling that something was wrong came shortly after midnight, and as computer technicians were rushing to handle it, the computer crashed completely about 3 a.m. Wednesday.

    All of the traffic lights kept working, but they no longer knew what time it was. When they were supposed to switch to morning rush mode, from 7 to 7:30, they kept rocking along at a rhythm better suited to Sunday morning.

    By then, county workers had been racing from one major intersection to the next, adjusting each light by hand. But it was too late. Although a flick of a switch could fix one light's timing, only the computer had the power to synchronize a series of traffic lights.

    Drivers' frustration was shared by the computer technicians in Rockville, who had isolated the problem by lunchtime but couldn't figure out how to fix it, Bowring said.

    "They know where the problem is, but they just don't know what it is," she said. "The server seems to be sending the signal, but the conduit is not transferring the information to the signal lights."

    The afternoon commute began badly when an unrelated fatal crash on the inner loop of the Capital Beltway ended with a vehicle in flames on the side of the road.

    Bowring said the computer that went belly up Wednesday was being phased out. The county is in the second year of a six-year program that will bring in more modern and reliable equipment.

    The malfunction of the Montgomery computers in Rockville happened about the same time as, and a couple dozen miles away from, a power failure at Metro's headquarters that muddled the morning commute for bus and rail riders.

    "I called them first thing when I heard about it," Bowring said, "and asked if there could be any possible connection. They said: 'No. There's no conspiracy out there.' "
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    Cat fighting gets ugly during BYU vs. New Mexico women's soccer match!
    1,825,680 views just since November 5th!!!

    I love the comment about if women's soccer was more like this.... Americans would watch it! Just in case you don't know... this is College level soccer....
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    Pirates beware! Microsoft bans 1 million Xbox Live players
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    It's oh-so enticing: you find a copy of a brand new game like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 on a pirate site and the temptation to download it is too strong.

    Well, that temptation may have cost up to 1 million users of Microsoft's Xbox Live the ability to use that service.......
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    KITE SURFERS AWESOME JUMP over Worthing Pier, East Sussex

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    Russian Vodka Warehouse destroyed by Forklift-2009

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    So how many times has something like this happened to you and you wished you were a cop and could just scare the living daylights out of the people who did it??? But pulling out a gun and not saying you're a cop?? Ummmm not too bright. :fool"

    Note to DDT, don't bring a gun to a massive snowball fight in DC!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RhossH1bm4

    http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/b...-u/#more-40369

    And here is footage of the snowball fight... they are actually really respectful of the traffic as most of them stop while the light changes and then they start up again when the traffic light changes again!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTx2w0WjYIk
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  20. #20
    Hanna
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    Re: Say What? Items in the News

    This is funny:
    A priest tells the congregation that it's OK to shoplift in the recession:

    His argument is that supermarkets are rather immoral and ungodly kinds of businesses and that God would love the poor people more than shareholders of the supermarkets who would be the ones losing out...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shoplift.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Church of England Minister
    'My advice, as a Christian priest, is to shoplift,' he told his stunned congregation at St Lawrence and St Hilda in York.

    'I do not offer such advice because I think that stealing is a good thing, or because I think it is harmless, for it is neither.

    'I would ask that they do not steal from small family businesses, but from large national businesses, knowing that the costs are ultimately passed on to the rest of us in the form of higher prices.

    'I would ask them not to take any more than they need. I offer the advice with a heavy heart. Let my words not be misrepresented as a simplistic call for people to shoplift.

    'The observation that shoplifting is the best option that some people are left with is a grim indictment of who we are.

    'Rather, this is a call for our society no longer to treat its most vulnerable people with indifference and contempt.

    'When people are released from prison, or find themselves suddenly without work or family support, then to leave them for weeks with inadequate or clumsy social support is monumental, catastrophic folly.

    'We create a situation which leaves some people little option but crime.'

    The father of two, whose parish has a wide mix of social conditions, said his advice to people in dire circumstances is that 'they should not hurt anybody and cope as best they can'.

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