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    ый and ой

    I'm having some trouble with this: Could someone record желточный and желточной, for example? Thanks.

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    Re: ый and ой

    Quote Originally Posted by challenger
    I'm having some trouble with this: Could someone record желточный and желточной, for example? Thanks.
    Since ы is unstressed and since it is in the ending, which we tend to fade the difference will be minimal. One would have to stress this syllable to show the difference.

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    Re: ый and ой

    Quote Originally Posted by challenger
    I'm having some trouble with this: Could someone record желточный and желточной, for example? Thanks.
    Here's a link that may be very helpful, you'll find lots of recordings.
    https://www.seelrc.org:8443/russ/login.jsp
    De gustibus et coloribus non disputandum.

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    Actually, Spiderkat, listening to the recording on that website of those two inflections that I put in my post is just what confused me! I don't have a problem when they're both stressed... but for all the world that unstressed ой sounded like ы.

    Thanks for the tip, Mike.

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    It seems that a lot of unstressed syllables sound the same or almost the same and when there's a difference it's sometimes imperceptible to a learner's hearing. Not to mention the difference of prononciation from one Russian native speaker to another.
    Maybe you shouldn't try to make it sound that different or try to hear any difference.
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    Опа! это прекрасный сайт! Большое спасибо. Мне действительно нужно было что-то похожее на это.

    Почему я только сейчас узнаю об этих ресурсах? Если бы только я знал раньше...

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    here it is
    (But I don't shure if I know even in Russian these words )

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