Thread: moscow vs ST. PETERSBURG: COST OF LIVING

Blimey!!! I am originally from Stockholm. St Petersburg is a MUCH bigger city than Stockholm.
Several old school friends of mine live in St Petersburg actually. I am not in touch with them directly, but I can see them boasting about their glamorous lifestyles in social media....

Well this would explain that... !

Consumer Prices in Stockholm are 92.76% higher than in Saint Petersburg

Consumer Prices Including Rent in Stockholm are 77.54% higher than in Saint Petersburg

Rent Prices in Stockholm are 47.97% higher than in Saint Petersburg

Restaurant Prices in Stockholm are 85.91% higher than in Saint Petersburg

Groceries Prices in Stockholm are 112.10% higher than in Saint Petersburg

Local Purchasing Power in Stockholm is 128.97% higher than in Saint Petersburg

The reason that rent prices in Stockholm. aren't higher is because they are controlled by the state in Sweden. If this is changed, then rents would double or triple, and level with the other prices in the table. The rents that people pay is ridiculously low - they should be 3x higher, really. It's a great situation if you can get your hands on a state rent controlled flat, which is very hard and requires waiting lists etc.
I am guessing that the housing market in St-P is completely market adjusted and people bought their flats or pay market based rent.

I actually wouldn't mind living in St Petersburg for a while, just to see if I like it. Isn't it likened to Venice or something? Well so is Stockholm. Assuming there are suitable jobs etc, obviously!

I have been there eons ago and it was very impressive and grand. I liked the architecture a lot, but it was quite run-down back then, and no shopping to mention, however I am aware this has changed dramatically, and St-P has great shopping and good restaurants and bars.
Seems like it's become quite chic! I really think I'd like it.

Transportation	[Edit]	[Edit]
One-way Ticket (Local Transport)	27.00 руб	197.88 руб	+632.88 %
Monthly Pass (Regular Price)	1,600.00 руб	4,342.29 руб	+171.39 %
Taxi Start (Normal Tariff)	250.00 руб	247.35 руб	-1.06 %
Taxi 1km (Normal Tariff)	30.00 руб	65.96 руб	+119.86 %
Taxi 1hour Waiting (Normal Tariff)	400.00 руб	2,459.72 руб	+514.93 %
Gasoline (1 liter)	31.84 руб	81.75 руб	+156.72 %
Volkswagen Golf 1.4 90 KW Trendline (Or Equivalent New Car)	700,000.00 руб	989,382.78 руб	+41.34 %

Scandis, this speaks for itself! Buy your car and fill up the tank in Russia!!!!



Anyone interested in hiring me for a Swedish salary while I live in St Petersburg?
I am a great IT project manager, really, I am!!

Buy Apartment Price	[Edit]	[Edit]
Price per Square Meter to Buy Apartment in City Centre	117,066.75 руб	362,350.87 руб	+209.53 %
Price per Square Meter to Buy Apartment Outside of Centre	81,626.63 руб	198,875.93 руб	+143.64 %
Salaries And Financing	[Edit]	[Edit]
Average Monthly Disposable Salary (After Tax)	30,241.35 руб	122,937.67 руб	+306.52 %
Mortgage Interest Rate in Percentages (%), Yearly	13.98	3.24	-76.82 %

And to any Russian who sees this and gets pissed off about the differences, I want to say; We are slowly destroying our country, while you are building up your country. In 10 years, this will have evened out. In the meantime, it's unfair and it's not reflective of people's skills I think.

Also - I have heard, right here at MR that people's REAL salaries are much higher than what they report to the state, and they get the difference in cash without paying tax on it. So the Russian figures are probably not correct anyway.

Originally Posted by Hanna

We are slowly destroying our country,

Shouldn`t judge the country depending on Snabba Cash movie
Actually, I lived in Malmoe (Dalaplan area), for almost two years.

So the Russian figures are probably not correct anyway

Yes, good explanation.
I`ve heard, I think, so probably... etc etc

Tell this to those who work like working bees in local groceries store. Not everyone in our country is oligarch, corrupted cop or lousy lawyer who can write 1000 $ in spring tax declaration but get tens more in envelopes. People cook, drive, wash, repair and believe me - they live on the numbers given to you by numbeo.
555 $ \ months in russian Auchan store comparing to 17 000 krons \ month in some Lidl or ICA (and that is after your "MOMS", am I right? Which are much higher than in Russia and which will go directly for maintain roads, facilities, safety, effectiveness not to officials pockets).

I`m not even talking about working conditions.
Or the possibility not to get salary on time.

I know that Stockholm is expensive. But prices in Malmoe were almost the same comparing to SPb.

Food - all the same apart from Danish meat or Cheese and few other exceptions.
Cinema - more expensive in Sweden.
Cloth was little bit cheaper in Sw.
Petrol - little bit more expensive in Sw. (its quality on russian damned gas stations is a different issue though)
Transportation - more expensive in Sw., but it is more comfortable, faster and more quiet than in Russia. I loved x2000 trains so much...
Apartments - maybe more expensive in Sw, but... there is no piss in the entrance, neighbours always say "hey", laudndry in the basement, no noise after 10 pm, and condition of the accomodation is better. My impression is based on different places where I lived.
Banking services - might be more expensive in Sweden but when I needed a paper in Lunds "fofspar" with managers signature and seal - they gave it to me for free, for instance. In russian banks they would rob you for 5-10 dollars...

So, not everything is only dependent on cost, my friend.