Thread: Привіт всім

Я б хотів сказати що я трошки знаю українську мову. Якщо хтось тут хотів б листуватися українською мовою тоді скажіть мені. Літом я жив у Львові три місяці. На жаль я вже забуваю все що я вивчив. Мій дід українець але ми рідко бачимося і я лиш маю декілька можливостеи розмовляти українською мовою.

Привіт Gogniat

Відкіля ти? И чому ти вивчаєш українську мову? Я теж трошки знаю цю мову. Може бути колись вівчу.

Я вчуся у Нью Йорку. Літом я грав в регбі у Львові. Крім того я маю українське походження. Звідки ти знаєш українську мову? Чи ти студент російсьскої мови? Я теж трошки знаю російську, але ліпше розмовляю українською.

Боже, больше писать на украинском не могу. А по-моему, ты довольно хорошо пишешь на украинском и наверное тоже на русском. Я не знаю украинский язык, просто у меня русско-украинский словарь есть, и пользуюсь им чтобы писать сообщении на ломаном украинском Да, можно сказать, я вроде бы "студент" русского языка.

А где наш Новичок? Ведь это он хотел украинский форум, а теперь им не пользуется.

Privit Kvitka! (Izvinni, ya ustal. Prosto shuchu)

Ne perezhivai moi drug. Poslednee vremya ya mnogo rabotal. Kogda u menya budet vihodnoi, ya vernus'!

I am glad that there are indeed some people that speak some degree of Ukrainian. Next week, I should have a lot more time to study Ukrainskij yazik.

Ну як ти вивчаєш український, книгами що-ли? Ти якось був на Україне?

Что такое "чи"?

"Чи" что-то вроде "ли".

понятно

Originally Posted by Pravit

Ну як ти вивчаєш український, книгами що-ли? Ти якось був на Україне?

В Україне
and whats the difference between В Україне and В Українi

TATY, all ukrainians know the great ukrainian poet Taras Grigor'evich Shevchenko. He wrote exactly "на Вкраїні", look here http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/4747/shevch.html You can disturb Russian if you want but by Ukrainian rules it would be "на Украине". "В Украине" sounds wierd like if I say to you"You live on London", I guess it clear what I mean but sentence is totally incorrect.

Originally Posted by JJ

TATY, all ukrainians know the great ukrainian poet Taras Grigor'evich Shevchenko. He wrote exactly "на Вкраїні", look here http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/4747/shevch.html You can disturb Russian if you want but by Ukrainian rules it would be "на Украине". "В Украине" sounds wierd like if I say to you"You live on London", I guess it clear what I mean but sentence is totally incorrect.

In my book Ukrainian A Complete Course for Beginners, it says says в Українi.

So, Taras Shevchenko lies to Ukrainians for about 160 years... BTW, in the most English-Russian dictionaries printed in Russia I don't know why but the word "canteen" means "столовая" - a dinner. Should I use it like you are useing the form "в Украине" and try to argue about with native speakers?

Originally Posted by JJ

So, Taras Shevchenko lies to Ukrainians for about 160 years... BTW, in the most English-Russian dictionaries printed in Russia I don't know why but the word "canteen" means "столовая" - a dinner. Should I use it like you are useing the form "в Украине" and try to argue about with native speakers?

Taras Shevchenko wrote that ages and ages ago. Languages change. The fact that he used the alternate spelling of Ukraine reflects that. No-one writes Вкраїні anymore, even though it sounds the same as the regular spelling Україні. I was in a langauge shop, and looked in a different book and it definately said В.

I have no more reasonable arguments for you. You've saw some books with misspelling in the language shop and it is more convincing for you than naitive-speakers experience. Ok, go on studeing languages this way, but remember a good Russian proverb "на заборе написано "х#й", а там дрова лежат".

Originally Posted by JJ

I have no more reasonable arguments for you. You've saw some books with misspelling in the language shop and it is more convincing for you than naitive-speakers experience. Ok, go on studeing languages this way, but remember a good Russian proverb "на заборе написано "х#й", а там дрова лежат".

I dont think two books by two different people will have the same mistake made consistantly through them.

Originally Posted by JJ

BTW, in the most English-Russian dictionaries printed in Russia I don't know why but the word "canteen" means "столовая" - a dinner.

You mean 'diner', I think.
But I don't get the point - what are you trying to say? Canteen does mean столовая, although canteen in this sense is a bit old fashioned ... but then again, I think столовая is a bit old fashioned too, right?
(Scratching head..)

Native speakers usually would not say на Вкраїні. Україна now a days is pretty much always Україна even if it is the first word of a sentence, unless the person writing something very literary, like Shevchenko was. You can also say for prepositional case either на Україні or в Україні it doesn't really matter and you will hear both used by Ukrainian speakers, at least in Lviv. Some people think в Україні is better now that Ukraine is independent, but it's not that big of a deal what you say.

Originally Posted by waxwing

But I don't get the point - what are you trying to say?

The point is the same argumentation - "In my book Ukrainian A Complete Course for Beginners, it says в Українi."(TATY)/"The most English-Russian dictionaries in Russia say that canteen = столовая" (me). Both statements are right but they lead to the wrong conclusions "в Украине" is right/ Столовая means canteen.

But, as I explained above, I believe canteen is not a bad translation for столовая .. you obviously disagree .. можно объяснить?