Thread: I wish I were Russian

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

BTW, how about russki? Next time you hear your English-speaking friend use this word about you when speaking English, don't compliment him for making progress in learning your language, instead smash the c..t's teeth in.

Это правда. Много американцев думают что "Russkiy" is a bad/racist word.Помню... несколько дней назад мой дядя о Путине с моей мамой разговаривал. он сказал"He's a crazy russkiy, Ex kbg and all. Just a crook like the rest of the mafia".

I was like, wtf RUSSKIY is not a bad word.

Of course it's not, in Russian, that is. But the point is that in English it's used as a bad word. I just wanted to show everyone how a word can be neutral in one language and offensive in another. The same goes for негр in Russian. A black person in Russia has no ground to feel offended by this word if it's used by a Russian in the context of a conversation in Russian. Similarly a Russian person should feel offended if he/she hears "russki" from English speaking people in the context of an English conversation. Of course if the same English-speaking people use this word about him/her while speaking Russian, he/she won't feel offended at all. What is so difficult to understand here?

Originally Posted by Alware

And where did you find OTHER LAWS here?
I meant one shouldn't use the texts of russian laws as a manual for his legal actions. The better things are experience and advise. And laws are just the information.

What a BS! I wonder what the laws you obey to? You contradict to yourself because expirience and advices are based on laws only.

My dear naive believer gimme a break, please!

My dear Alware, I am seek and tired reading this cr@p without any arguments. If you got something why you do not want to share your experience? You got nothing but words. It's a pity.

Originally Posted by JJ

What a BS! I wonder what the laws you obey to? You contradict to yourself because expirience and advices are based on laws only.

OK. e.g. You need to renew your technical inspection card for your car. Law says that you should pay the taxes and go to the certified autorepairs' to pass the inspection tests. But there's an option to go to mr.ZZZ give him 300 rur, copies of the papers and you get your card in one day. The card will be absolutely legal. What would you do? And how is it based on a law?

Originally Posted by JJ

I am seek and tired reading this cr@p without any arguments.

So tell me, please, what are you doing now? Proceeding the argument, I believe.

Originally Posted by JJ

If you got something why you do not want to share your experience?

What else should I share?

2Alware and JJ
Мне кажется, это любовь

Originally Posted by Indra

2Alware and JJ
Мне кажется, это любовь

And what did you think? Нас просто водой не разлить

PS Just to prevent misunderstanding I must inform you that I'm straight

Wow, "Russki" is a word you don't use in conversation around here (in English)? I've never heard that before? I've never heard it in any other context other than in comparison to "Hispanic, German, Spaniard, etc). Just referring to their nationality. I'm not questioning you to be an ass, I've just really never heard anything like that before and I'm from here?

Originally Posted by vino

Wow, "Russki" is a word you don't use in conversation around here (in English)? I've never heard that before? I've never heard it in any other context other than in comparison to "Hispanic, German, Spaniard, etc). Just referring to their nationality. I'm not questioning you to be an ass, I've just really never heard anything like that before and I'm from here?

I didn't know of it as well. And the online dictionaries don't say much about it (actually no wonder if it's slang):

from http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/Russki:
Russ•ki

Pronunciation: (rus'kE, roos'-, rOO'skE),
—n.,
—pl. -kies, -kis. Slang (disparaging and offensive).
a Russian. Also,Russ'kie,Russky.
---------------------------------------------------
from http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?b ... &va=Russki:

Main Entry: Russ·ki
Variant(s): or Russ·ky or Russ·kie
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural Russkies or Russkis
Etymology: Russian russkii, adjective & noun, Russian, from Old Russian, from Rus': RUSSIAN 1

RUSSIAN 1 :
1 a : a native or inhabitant of Russia b : a member of the dominant Slavic-speaking ethnic group of Russia c : a person of Russian descent
------------------------------------------------
Maybe it has two meanings one of which is derogative?

Originally Posted by vino

Wow, "Russki" is a word you don't use in conversation around here (in English)? I've never heard that before? I've never heard it in any other context other than in comparison to "Hispanic, German, Spaniard, etc). Just referring to their nationality. I'm not questioning you to be an ass, I've just really never heard anything like that before and I'm from here?

since when being from LA equals knowing how English is spoke in all her varieties? The only contexts I've heard people use the word russki in the UK have been less than polite. And believe me, I've heard from a lot of speakers of English (BrE mostly I admit) saying that it is indeed a bad word. It's the same as when some people in Russia say Гансы about zee Germans (c) - it's extremely impolite.

Originally Posted by Friendy

from http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/Russki:
Russ•ki

Pronunciation: (rus'kE, roos'-, rOO'skE),
—n.,
—pl. -kies, -kis. Slang (disparaging and offensive).
a Russian. Also,Russ'kie,Russky.
------------------------------------------------
Maybe it has two meanings one of which is derogative?

Friendy, take a closer look:

Pronunciation: (rus'kE, roos'-, rOO'skE),
—n.,
—pl. -kies, -kis. Slang (disparaging and offensive).
a Russian. Also,Russ'kie,Russky.

since when being from LA equals knowing how English is spoke in all her varieties?

woah there VM. Nobody is attacking you. If you're going to take a shot at me for pointing out that I've never heard it as slang in English, then maybe you shouldn't generalize English, and point out exactly where that English is spoken. "Russki" in English , obviously, doesn't have the same effect everywhere it is spoken, and we do not need people to think that it does. And then I will not assume that all English spoken countries are the same.

Originally Posted by vino

woah there VM. Nobody is attacking you.

I'm sorry mate, but my hands are sort of tied at the moment to start yet another pointless argument, but медведь with me and I will

P.S. now that's a carry-over of a century, innit. geddit?

Pointless argument it is. Both points taken, time to move on. Peace..

the 'Russkies' is a well known concept from cold-war America, 'reds under the bed' etc. Note that they pronounced the 'u' vowel sound the same way as 'cut', not as 'oo' (short or long). About as ignorant as it gets, really

I don't know how derogative it is to refer to someone as a 'russkie' ..

Originally Posted by VM

but медведь with me and I will

классно

pl. -kies, -kis. Slang (disparaging and offensive).

Right there in the definition.

Это правда. Много американцев думают что "Russkiy" is a bad/racist word.Помню... несколько дней назад мой дядя о Путине с моей мамой разговаривал. он сказал"He's a crazy russkiy, Ex kbg and all. Just a crook like the rest of the mafia".

I was like, wtf RUSSKIY is not a bad word.

So an average American doesn't really know what Russikiy means? I know this word became well-known in the US during the Cold War and now my friends here use it sometimes but they're only joking, but do they really know what the word means or do they think it just something commie and offensive? Is it considered as bad as the N word? If so, wonder what they think it means....really, it's only "Russian"

@astarz

Correct. I mean, they might have some idea, since it is after all, somewhat of a close cognate... for example Negro... and it's more offensive counterpart, obviosuly has some ties to the word "black". (like for example the spanish word for black).

And you are right about the cold war terminolgy... alot of words actually sprung up and russianized the english language. One word i can think of now is "beatnik". a term for a lazy person, usually a hippy or some sort that liked to play music and look at crappy art. Thus a "beat - nik".

There are a few other words which end in "nik", but i can't think of any of the top of my head.

Also, i just remembered, (and pravit can back me up with this)... there is a game called "Operation flashpoint" witch simulates what it would have been like if american and soviet forces had ever engaged in actual combat. And when you play as an american, they always refer to them as "Russkies", ment to be offensive. Much like Kraut was, to germans, or N****r is to blacks, charlie to vietnamise, beaner to mexicans, honkey to white people, limey to brits, frogs to french... and so on.

Your american friends who say Russkie to you are probly jsut being playful, kinda like when da boiz in da hood say "sup nigga" to their fellow gangstas .

i hope this clears it up.

Originally Posted by VendingMachine

Originally Posted by Friendy

from http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/Russki:
Russ•ki

Pronunciation: (rus'kE, roos'-, rOO'skE),
—n.,
—pl. -kies, -kis. Slang (disparaging and offensive).
a Russian. Also,Russ'kie,Russky.
------------------------------------------------
Maybe it has two meanings one of which is derogative?

Friendy, take a closer look:

Pronunciation: (rus'kE, roos'-, rOO'skE),
—n.,
—pl. -kies, -kis. Slang (disparaging and offensive).
a Russian. Also,Russ'kie,Russky.

I saw that quite well. I was talking about the definition in Merriam-Webster, where it's offensiveness isn't mentioned. That's why I said about the two meanings.

That's because they hate us at MW's, Friendy.

Originally Posted by Alware

Law says that you should pay the taxes and go to the certified autorepairs' to pass the inspection tests. But there's an option to go to mr.ZZZ give him 300 rur, copies of the papers and you get your card in one day. The card will be absolutely legal. What would you do? And how is it based on a law?

First, you'll pay taxes anyway. Secondly, no one "mr. ZZZ" could do anything to prevent you to get it by the law, this is your choice. That's what I always try to say to you.

So tell me, please, what are you doing now? Proceeding the argument, I believe.

Why should I do anything? You say "dont't use the russian laws as f**ng manuals or u can get yourself into troubles" so prove it.

What else should I share?

Just share your experience how you used the russian laws and it got yourself into troubles.

Yeah, Alware, I too would like to hear your story.