Thread: grammar tutor for beginner

What does SY mean? Friendy is a her.

Originally Posted by DenisM

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Not sure if there is any longer story w/o verbs in russian like this one but there are a few meaningful stories with all words starting with the same letter, e.g. :
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( from here )
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That's great. I knew "четыре чёрненьких чумазеньких чертёнка чертили чёрными чернилами чертёж чрезвычайно чисто" from the childhood and also have been told that there are similar things with other letters but I haven't read them. I wonder, is there something like that in English.

What does SY mean? Friendy is a her.


Just how I transliterate "Svetlana Yezhova"

I just say "SY"

Friendy is a her? oops. For some reason I thought she was a guy.

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Светлана Ежова wrote:
SY: Easy: I did not forget all of it. And helping someone else helps me to remember it and keep it in top shape for my mind.


I don't want to sit on a high horse here, but you shouldn't teach in order to brush up your own skills. There are ways of brushing up your own skills without causing problems for impressionable n00bs.

SY: What is a "high horse?" Causing problems for newbies...oh no...I never do that. I wouldn't want to do that. Actually I prefer to call them rookies or something. "Newbie" sounds a bit crude to me and a bit condescending. I was a new Russian student once also.


Quote:
Cool! Yes, I am impressed with dogboy..."he's Russkie hotness." He's hot, or his Russian is hot?


Heh. I'll let Sobakitchka take this one.

SY: Who is that? "heh" Is that suppoised to be a chuckle?


Well, there's the problem. Students perform to the level expected of them. Period. Assume that students are brilliant, and they're a lot more likely to live up to it. Professors should push students, not wait for stragglers. That's study sessions are for.

SY: Well you are right about that. If you treat someone as if they're an intelligent thinking individual, they will know who they are and will livbe up to it. I know exactly what you mean from personal experience. Well to be honest I always wanted to go faster with Russian than the prof's teaching pace. I thought he was too slow (for me anyway). I love Russian language, and I always learned quickly. So, because I wanted to help people, and because I'm nice peron, and because I would keep from becoming bord because I already knew what the prof was teaching at the time, I began tutoring. I helped my fellow classmates who were having some difficulty with the Russian. I am good at tutoring, and so I just kept doing it. I love it! and I always want to learn more about tutoring and Russian so I can become bilingual myself and tutor higher Russian levels as well.. I did go to study sessions though when I was going through the levels. Those are cool.

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By the way, Dog taught himself. What about you Lindsey (nice name by the way- sorry I never said that before- it's my cousin's name)? How did you learn? You teach yourself too? You say your a teacher. Do you teach Russian? That's what I want to do. Be a prof myself and teach Russianhistory and language.


I teach remedial reading, which sounds like a drag, but it actually splendid. I started learning Russian three years ago, at UW-Madison, which is the institution whence my degree came. My progress was aided by a summer at Middlebury Language School and five months doing an internship in St. Petersburg. I'm not the guru Dog makes me out to be, but I am functional as a Russian speaker.

SY: cool. What is remedial reading? Well that could also be why you are farther along than me after only 3 years. with Russian I mean. You immersed yourself in it by going to Russia. I never had that opportunity. I mean, students could go, but I never had the money. I am able to start and hold conversations in Russian though. I actually can say a lot in Russian but I never really got the chance to show you. Yeah, Dog makes you out to be really cool, I read some of his posts. Maybe you are really cool, I don't know you enough. (Well perhaps it would be more correct to say I don't know you at all?) Where are you from anyway Lindsey? Where is UV Madison? Is it a university?

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Right now what I'd like to do here is practice speaking to you all in Russian-I mean writing to you in Russian, I mean typing-oh hell! You know what I mean. Would you type back to me in Russian and help me learn more? I write down new words in your posts to me, I memorize them. It will help me learn new words. I think BTW that I do not have opportunity to practice Russian enough which might also help to explain why I not as far along as you two are. Kirill is always busy and I don't really have anyone else. Will you help me? Then we can all get to know each other better. I'd be interested in getting to know you all better. Then we can all be friends.


Unfortunately, my computer doesn't have Cyrillic support, and I refuse to translit, as it rots the brain.

SY: I hate translit as well- I think it looks stupid.

Perhaps sometime I'll get the software to type in Russian (and then learn to type in Russian...ugh), but not at the moment.

SY: If you can't, then how were you able to put your name in Russian so you could sign up here on this message board? just curious.

However, I'm sure others will be happy to communicate with you. You should begin frequenting the Russian Language Only subforum.

SY: I think I will. That's a good idea. I can write down and memorize lots of words there.
By the way, what are vimes and they walk gloomily do they?
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Vimes stalked gloomily through the crowded streets, feeling like the only pickled onion in a

Originally Posted by Светлана Ежова

What does SY mean? Friendy is a her.

Just how I transliterate "Svetlana Yezhova"

I just say "SY"

Friendy is a her? oops. For some reason I thought she was a guy.

It seems that you don't care that you confuse other people with the way you quote? And after all you say:

Originally Posted by Светлана Ежова

I always use proper "netiquette" and be respectful of others.

Duh

Alexei, do you mean that you have trouble distinguishing my words from someone else's? I do care, but I didn't really understand what you mean....

Originally Posted by Светлана Ежова

Friendy is a her? oops. For some reason I thought she was a guy.

When I frist talked to friendy i made this mistake too. I thought, for some reason that her avatar was maybe a picture of his wife, or a russian singer or somebody. I just thought she'd be a guy so called her "Him" once .

Sorry friendy!!!! I still feel bad =). I'm usually good with guessing genders... Exept one time i thought that evgenya was a guy too ! =(.

Sorry to all my ladies ! You know i love you =).

lol

Originally Posted by Линдзи

Unfortunately, my computer doesn't have Cyrillic support, and I refuse to translit, as it rots the brain. Perhaps sometime I'll get the software to type in Russian (and then learn to type in Russian...ugh), but not at the moment. However, I'm sure others will be happy to communicate with you. You should begin frequenting the Russian Language Only subforum.

Sounds like someone's got a confidence problem/fear of public failure

Mike, bust out some russian. Или лучше играть в нинтендо ?

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Originally Posted by Светлана Ежова

Friendy is a her? oops. For some reason I thought she was a guy.

When I frist talked to friendy i made this mistake too. I thought, for some reason that her avatar was maybe a picture of his wife, or a russian singer or somebody. I just thought she'd be a guy so called her "Him" once .

Sorry friendy!!!! I still feel bad =). I'm usually good with guessing genders... Exept one time i thought that evgenya was a guy too ! =(.

Sorry to all my ladies ! You know i love you =).

Come on guys, don’t you have eyes or what? It's obvious that Friendy is a lady from a photo next to her posts!

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Come on guys, don’t you have eyes or what? It's obvious that Friendy is a lady from a photo next to her posts!

according to my Очки, yes obviously she's a woman. As i said, for some reason i assumed that it was a guy, and that the guy had put a picture of his girlfriend and or wife there. Don't ask me why, it was just a subcontious assumtion.

Originally Posted by mike

Originally Posted by Линдзи

Unfortunately, my computer doesn't have Cyrillic support, and I refuse to translit, as it rots the brain. Perhaps sometime I'll get the software to type in Russian (and then learn to type in Russian...ugh), but not at the moment. However, I'm sure others will be happy to communicate with you. You should begin frequenting the Russian Language Only subforum.

Sounds like someone's got a confidence problem/fear of public failure

Oh Mike, you figured me out O, THE WOULD THAT THIS TOO TOO SOLID FLESH WOULD MELT!

Let me just make a pathetic, shameless attempt to rehijack this hijack of a hijacked thread ->
Would one kind Russian read my previous post which is about 4th or 5th down on page 3 and answer that question I had to JJ? Do you study it at school?
Maybe it's difficult to remember but anyway

Originally Posted by Светлана Ежова

What is a "high horse?" Causing problems for newbies...oh no...I never do that. I wouldn't want to do that. Actually I prefer to call them rookies or something. "Newbie" sounds a bit crude to me and a bit condescending. I was a new Russian student once also.

And "rookie" doesn't sound demeaning? Pshaw. Let's call a spade a spade. If someone's a n00b, they're a n00b. They can study for a while and get past their n00bness. And as for "high horse" - it's a fairly common English colloquialism.

Originally Posted by Svetlana of the Family Hedgehog

Quote:
Cool! Yes, I am impressed with dogboy..."he's Russkie hotness." He's hot, or his Russian is hot?


Heh. I'll let Sobakitchka take this one.

SY: Who is that? "heh" Is that suppoised to be a chuckle?

Dogboy = Dog = Sobaka = Sobakitchka. And yeeeeeees, "heh" is a chuckle.

Originally Posted by I, being quoted without quote tags by Svetlana,

Well, there's the problem. Students perform to the level expected of them. Period. Assume that students are brilliant, and they're a lot more likely to live up to it. Professors should push students, not wait for stragglers. That's study sessions are for.

SY: Well you are right about that. If you treat someone as if they're an intelligent thinking individual, they will know who they are and will livbe up to it. I know exactly what you mean from personal experience. Well to be honest I always wanted to go faster with Russian than the prof's teaching pace. I thought he was too slow (for me anyway). I love Russian language, and I always learned quickly. So, because I wanted to help people, and because I'm nice peron, and because I would keep from becoming bord because I already knew what the prof was teaching at the time, I began tutoring. I helped my fellow classmates who were having some difficulty with the Russian. I am good at tutoring, and so I just kept doing it. I love it! and I always want to learn more about tutoring and Russian so I can become bilingual myself and tutor higher Russian levels as well.. I did go to study sessions though when I was going through the levels. Those are cool.

So why do you think it's a good idea to drag your feet with students, then? You were bored. You learned less than you could have more slowly than you could have. Taking things slowly is stupid. ESPECIALLY on a college level, where supposedly people already have some academic strength. No taking things slow. Vroooooom. Full speed ahead! Ramming speed!

Originally Posted by Um, \"SY\" and I

Quote:
I teach remedial reading, which sounds like a drag, but it actually splendid. I started learning Russian three years ago, at UW-Madison, which is the institution whence my degree came. My progress was aided by a summer at Middlebury Language School and five months doing an internship in St. Petersburg. I'm not the guru Dog makes me out to be, but I am functional as a Russian speaker.

SY: cool. What is remedial reading?

It's exactly what name says. My job is to bring kids up to their proper reading level. I work in a school district that isn't doing so hot academically.

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

Well that could also be why you are farther along than me after only 3 years. with Russian I mean. You immersed yourself in it by going to Russia. I never had that opportunity. I mean, students could go, but I never had the money.

I'm not exactly affluent. It's possible to seek out grants. The good ol' DoD paid a big chunk of my study abroad. One of the benefits of being part of America's police state, I suppose But in any case, my Russian didn't get that much better during study abroad, which is a fairly common phenomenon, I believe. My accent improved, as did my everyday vocabulary (and my slang), but I didn't learn a whit of grammar. I'd estimate that I learned 95% of my Russian right in the US.

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

I am able to start and hold conversations in Russian though. I actually can say a lot in Russian but I never really got the chance to show you. Yeah, Dog makes you out to be really cool, I read some of his posts. Maybe you are really cool, I don't know you enough. (Well perhaps it would be more correct to say I don't know you at all?)

Eh, Dog's surpassed me in a lot of areas. Goes to show what having a decent work ethic can do for you. But I helped him out back when he was a n00b and he knows that if he doesn't respect the Godmother he'll wake up with a decapitated horse head in his bed.

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

But Where are you from anyway Lindsey? Where is UV Madison? Is it a university?

Yeah, that's what the U stands for. It's the University of Wisconsin, one of the larger US universities. Some of UW's departments are quote fine, while others, in a word, bite. The Slavic Languages Department there is respectable. I'm from Wisconsin; I now live in Texas.

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

SY: If you can't, then how were you able to put your name in Russian so you could sign up here on this message board? just curious.

My home computer (which was connected to the 'net back when I was in college, but is not now) has Cyrillic support. Now my only 'net connected comp is at school, and I can't activate the language support on it because of admin restrictions.

Eh. Even if I could activate it, I probaby wouldn't, because I'm lazy and I hate typing in Russian.

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

By the way, what are vimes and they walk gloomily do they?

Ai ai ai ai. May I recommend the book Jingo by Terry Pratchett?

[quote=Линдзи]

Originally Posted by Светлана Ежова":3lnk6pqf] What is a "high horse?" Causing problems for newbies...oh no...I never do that. I wouldn't want to do that. Actually I prefer to call them rookies or something. "Newbie" sounds a bit crude to me and a bit condescending. I was a new Russian student once also.[/quote]

And "rookie" doesn't sound demeaning? Pshaw. Let's call a spade a spade. If someone's a n00b, they're a n00b. They can study for a while and get past their n00bness. And as for "high horse" - [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=high%20horse]it's a fairly common English colloquialism.[/url]

Svetlana: Well I am not at all familiar with English (England?) jargon. Fill me in?

Ah well. You say TOMAYYYYYYYTO, and I'll say TOMOOOOOOOOto.
You say POTAAAAAYYYTO, I'll say POTOOOOOOOTO.
You say newbie and I say rookie or beginner or smth like that.

[quote=Svetlana of the Family Hedgehog]Quote:
Cool! Yes, I am impressed with dogboy..."he's Russkie hotness." He's hot, or his Russian is hot?


Heh. I'll let Sobakitchka take this one.

SY: Who is that? "heh" Is that suppoised to be a chuckle?[/quote]

Dogboy = Dog = Sobaka = Sobakitchka. And yeeeeeees, "heh" is a chuckle.

"From the HEDGEHOG: Hee. I guess I am a hedgehog huh? Seeing as how I use that name. Sabaka- Yes. Dog. By the way, I had one of those. A collie named after the Romanov princess Anastasia.


[quote=I, being quoted without quote tags by Svetlana,]
Well, there's the problem. Students perform to the level expected of them. Period. Assume that students are brilliant, and they're a lot more likely to live up to it. Professors should push students, not wait for stragglers. That's study sessions are for.

SY: Well you are right about that. If you treat someone as if they're an intelligent thinking individual, they will know who they are and will livbe up to it. I know exactly what you mean from personal experience. Well to be honest I always wanted to go faster with Russian than the prof's teaching pace. I thought he was too slow (for me anyway). I love Russian language, and I always learned quickly. So, because I wanted to help people, and because I'm nice peron, and because I would keep from becoming bord because I already knew what the prof was teaching at the time, I began tutoring. I helped my fellow classmates who were having some difficulty with the Russian. I am good at tutoring, and so I just kept doing it. I love it! and I always want to learn more about tutoring and Russian so I can become bilingual myself and tutor higher Russian levels as well.. I did go to study sessions though when I was going through the levels. Those are cool.[/quote]

So why do you think it's a good idea to drag your feet with students, then? You were [i]bored[/i]. You learned less than you could have more slowly than you could have. Taking things slowly is [b]stupid[/b]. ESPECIALLY on a college level, where supposedly people already have some academic strength. No taking things slow. Vroooooom. Full speed ahead! Ramming speed!

THE HEDGEHOG Yezhova: Sometimes I believe in taking things slow, sometimes not. Like everything I guess. You cannot go fast with everybody.


[quote=Um, \"SY\" and I]
Quote:
I teach remedial reading, which sounds like a drag, but it actually splendid. I started learning Russian three years ago, at UW-Madison, which is the institution whence my degree came. My progress was aided by a summer at Middlebury Language School and five months doing an internship in St. Petersburg. I'm not the guru Dog makes me out to be, but I am functional as a Russian speaker.

SY: cool. What is remedial reading?[/quote]

It's exactly what name says. My job is to bring kids up to their proper reading level. I work in a school district that isn't doing so hot academically.

Svetlana: And do you go slowly with these people? Or at least with some of them?

[quote=\"Svetlana\

Well that could also be why you are farther along than me after only 3 years. with Russian I mean. You immersed yourself in it by going to Russia. I never had that opportunity. I mean, students could go, but I never had the money.

I'm not exactly affluent. It's possible to seek out grants. The good ol' DoD paid a big chunk of my study abroad. One of the benefits of being part of America's police state, I suppose

Svetlana: hee....I don't like the US gov either

But in any case, my Russian didn't get that much better during study abroad, which is a fairly common phenomenon, I believe. My accent improved, as did my everyday vocabulary (and my slang), but I didn't learn a whit of grammar. I'd estimate that I learned 95% of my Russian right in the US.

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

I am able to start and hold conversations in Russian though. I actually can say a lot in Russian but I never really got the chance to show you. Yeah, Dog makes you out to be really cool, I read some of his posts. Maybe you are really cool, I don't know you enough. (Well perhaps it would be more correct to say I don't know you at all?)

Eh, Dog's surpassed me in a lot of areas. Goes to show what having a decent work ethic can do for you. But I helped him out back when he was a n00b and he knows that if he doesn't respect the Godmother he'll wake up with a decapitated horse head in his bed.

Svetlana : Double hee. Hear that, Dog?

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

But Where are you from anyway Lindsey? Where is UV Madison? Is it a university?

Yeah, that's what the U stands for. It's the University of Wisconsin, one of the larger US universities. Some of UW's departments are quote fine, while others, in a word, bite. The Slavic Languages Department there is respectable. I'm from Wisconsin; I now live in Texas.

Svetlana: Cool. Are their many cowboys/cowgirls down there or have I just seen too many Western made for tv (hee) movies?

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

SY: If you can't, then how were you able to put your name in Russian so you could sign up here on this message board? just curious.

My home computer (which was connected to the 'net back when I was in college, but is not now) has Cyrillic support. Now my only 'net connected comp is at school, and I can't activate the language support on it because of admin restrictions.

Eh. Even if I could activate it, I probaby wouldn't, because I'm lazy and I hate typing in Russian.

Svetlana: I am lazy too sometimes. But I'm game to learn to type in Russian. I think I must if I want to become bilingual. It would help me a lot. Much faster than using snail mail and writing to my Russian penpals.

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

By the way, what are vimes and they walk gloomily do they?

Ai ai ai ai. May I recommend the book Jingo by Terry Pratchett?[/quote:3lnk6pqf]

Svetlana: I have never heard of this writer.

LMAO. Is she kidding? I'm so confused. And so glad she's not teaching me Russian. I'd choke myself before I got through the alphabet. Wow.

WTF I AM CONFUSED!

Unnngh. I'm going to try to reply even though you messed the quotes all up.

[quote=Светлана Ежова]

Originally Posted by Линдзи":32amzcxc][quote="Светлана Ежова":32amzcxc] What is a "high horse?" Causing problems for newbies...oh no...I never do that. I wouldn't want to do that. Actually I prefer to call them rookies or something. "Newbie" sounds a bit crude to me and a bit condescending. I was a new Russian student once also.[/quote]

And "rookie" doesn't sound demeaning? Pshaw. Let's call a spade a spade. If someone's a n00b, they're a n00b. They can study for a while and get past their n00bness. And as for "high horse" - [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=high%20horse]it's a fairly common English colloquialism.[/url][/quote:32amzcxc]

[quote]Svetlana: Well I am not at all familiar with English (England?) jargon. Fill me in?[/quote][/quote:32amzcxc]

There's a link in my post above which should clarify meaning for you; also, I believe it is a New World colloquialism and not a British one. Or if it is a British one, it's widely used on this side of the pond.

[quote=\"Svetlana\

Originally Posted by I

So why do you think it's a good idea to drag your feet with students, then? You were bored. You learned less than you could have more slowly than you could have. Taking things slowly is stupid. ESPECIALLY on a college level, where supposedly people already have some academic strength. No taking things slow. Vroooooom. Full speed ahead! Ramming speed!

THE HEDGEHOG Yezhova: Sometimes I believe in taking things slow, sometimes not. Like everything I guess. You cannot go fast with everybody.

Yes, you can. And you should. Better to go too fast and have to go back and review than to noodle around until the Apocalypse. People are generally intellectually lazy and need to be pressured to perform. Obviously you must take the time necessary to teach a topic, but it should be the absolute minimum time necessary. And a class should not be taught to its slowest student.

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

Originally Posted by I

Quote:
I teach remedial reading, which sounds like a drag, but it actually splendid. I started learning Russian three years ago, at UW-Madison, which is the institution whence my degree came. My progress was aided by a summer at Middlebury Language School and five months doing an internship in St. Petersburg. I'm not the guru Dog makes me out to be, but I am functional as a Russian speaker.

Originally Posted by Svetlana

SY: cool. What is remedial reading?

Originally Posted by I

It's exactly what name says. My job is to bring kids up to their proper reading level. I work in a school district that isn't doing so hot academically.

Svetlana: And do you go slowly with these people? Or at least with some of them?

No. Quite the opposite. They need to catch up, and they need to catch up now. Reading is an essential life skill. Many of them need to advance several years in less than a year's time. I work them hard, and they'll appreciate it in a few years. I don't care if they like it at the moment. Most of the reason many of them are so far behind is low expectations from their previous instructors. Everyone is capable - including my special ed kids, which make up a small percentage of the class - but they need to be TREATED like they're capable if they're to achieve.

Svetlana: Cool. Are their many cowboys/cowgirls down there [in Texas] or have I just seen too many Western made for tv (hee) movies?

I have not met a single cowboy here. I knew more of them back in Wisconsin. Then again, I live in South Texas.

Originally Posted by Svetlana

Originally Posted by \"Svetlana\"

By the way, what are vimes and they walk gloomily do they?

Originally Posted by I

Ai ai ai ai. May I recommend the book Jingo by Terry Pratchett?

Svetlana: I have never heard of this writer.

Then it's time to go to the library, kiddo.

Originally Posted by waxwing

Would one kind Russian read my previous post which is about 4th or 5th down on page 3 and answer that question I had to JJ? Do you study it at school?

It's just looks like another way to teach russian for russians, than to foriener learners. I don't remember our teachers explained to us such things like using the cases to make emphasis on a noun. It was about only 1-2 lessons about cases like "The nominative case aswers the question "Who? What?", the genitive case - "whom? what for?", do you understant children?"....But it was a 20 years ago.