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    Burned out on Russian

    So whats the best way to start learning Japanese?
    I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened. -Mark Twain

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    こんにちわ!ぼくはにほんごをならいます。

    I've just got back from Japan and it was spiggin awesome so I've decided to learn Japanese. I tried once before but I quit soon after learning ひらがなand カタカナ。I forgot a lot though....

    Anyone know any good sites? Any tips? How hard do you reckon Japanese is in comparison with Russian for an English speaker?

    Man, I think I don't know what I'm getting myself into....

    I only know how to say stuff like this so far:
    しんじゅくのえきはどこですか。

    ありがとうございます。
    では、また。

    мне нужно больше свободного времени, я не хочу забывать русский!

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    By the way, is this right? It's way ahead of myself but I want to put it in my signature.

    わたしのまさがいをただしてください。

    ありがとう。

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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    こんにちわ!ぼくはにほんごをならいます。
    In this case, present tense doesn't so well in Japanese.
    ぼくはにほんごをならっています。

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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    By the way, is this right? It's way ahead of myself but I want to put it in my signature.

    わたしのまがいをただしてください。

    ありがとう。
      

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    Awesome thanks.

    This is when the "te" form and "imasu" are used together for a continuous action, right?

    あのおとこのひとはしんぶんをよんでいます。That man over there is reading a newspaper.

    Is that right? By the way, do you know a forum like this one for learners of Japanese. I want to go pester them with all my simple, stupid questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    Awesome thanks.

    This is when the "te" form and "imasu" are used together for a continuous action, right?

    あのおとこのひとはしんぶんをよんでいます。That man over there is reading a newspaper.

    Is that right?
    Так

    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    By the way, do you know a forum like this one for learners of Japanese. I want to go pester them with all my simple, stupid questions.
    Як це?
    http://www.polusharie.com/

    ST может это порекомендует
    http://japanese.about.com/mpboards.htm

    Но к сожалению я не знаю таких интересных форумов, как МР
    А если хочешь, я отвечаю на твои вопросы. Только теперь немного становился занятым, не могу достаточно учить иснпанский язык и українську мову, даже русский не хватает!!

    По поводу your signature, я бы сказал 私の間違いを直してください。(わたしのまちがいをなおしてくさい)
    Иероглфами выгядет класнее, да? [/quote]

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    Здоровеньки булы, Мог-сан! Я тоже не знаю хороших сайтов. Когда то я пытался уже создать тему, но она сразу заглохла
    http://masterrussian.net/mforum/viewtopic.php?t=6028
    Может стоит этот форум хорошенько проПиАр-ить (PR)?

    basurero-if you find something, post here, OK?
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    Спасибо за ссылки. Вы правы, это отличный сайт. Я не знаю лучший форум на всем интернете. Будет интересно практиковать мой японский с русскими.

    Я вначале не хотел использовать канджи для подписи, потому что я пока еще не знаю ни одного иероглифа, но ты прав, выглядит намного круче

    わたしはかんじをしりません、でも я хочу учить его. 

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    Вот вам поставлю ещё несколько ссылок для изучающих японских иероглифов
    http://meiko.web.infoseek.co.jp/
    http://www.geocities.co.jp/NeverLand/2002/frame.html
    http://kakijun.main.jp/
    http://www.oct-net.ne.jp/~mkk/

    This is great one where you can check your skill, it works both in .Japanese and English.
    http://contest2002.thinkquest.jp/tqj...051/index.html

    Best wishes!

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    MOG:

    ST, может, это порекомендует:
    http://japanese.about.com/mpboards.htm

    Но, к сожалению, я не знаю других таких интересных форумов, как МР
    А если хочешь, я буду отвечать на твои вопросы. Только теперь я стал немного более занят, не могу уделить достаточного внимания изучению иснпанского и українськоi мови, даже на русский времени не хватает!!

    По поводу your signature, я бы сказал 私の間違いを直してください。(わたしのまちがいをなおしてくさい)
    Иероглифами выглядит класснее, да?
    "...Важно, чтобы форум оставался местом, объединяющим людей, для которых интересны русский язык и культура. ..." - MasterАdmin (из переписки)



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    Hi!

    I have just come across this thread.

    I would like to know whether "А" in your sentence "А если хочешь" means "And" or "But", Lampada.

    А если хочешь - And if you want
    А если хочешь - But if you want

    I think only and is correct, right?

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    As I read all your post I have more problems.

    What does it mean "я стал занят"?
    I also don't understand the word "мови". I can't look it up in my dictionary.

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    Я стал занят - I've become/became busy.

    Мови - It's a Ukrainian word meaning "language(s)" as far as I can guess.

    А если хочешь - hmm, you can just get rid of "a" there, no real change in meaning. А is often used to introduce a question and I think "а" qualifies as an interjection in such cases.

    А ты не знаешь, что завтра показывают?
    А что ты делаешь?

    And blah blah blah

    Actually, come to think of it, maybe "а" there has a similar meaning to "and". For example, something as mundane as asking:

    Как у тебя дела? vs. А как у тебя дела?

    The first one is most likely to be used to start a conversation with someone. The second is more likely to be used when you've already been talking to someone for a bit but never asked how they were doing untill the moment. In that case:

    А как у тебя дела? would very roughly mean something like:

    In addition to everything that's already been said I'd also like to know how you are doing

    But it's the grey area, no doubt of that. Explaining "а" is like expaining the difference between sentences like:

    Ну ты молодец! - Ну ты и молодец!

    I hope that this messed up "clarification" will do any good
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    That is a big help, iCake. Thank you very much

    Actually we use the "А" the same way as you wrote in Czech

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