Thread: ведь

за что тебе дали премию?
я ведь умный!

ведь можно как-то перевести на английский?

can ведь be translated into English somehow?

Originally Posted by olgaa

я ведь умный!

Maybe something like "After all, I am so smart!"

ведь можно как-то перевести на английский?
can ведь be translated into English somehow?

You know, technically ведь came from ведать, so it could be translated as "you know" I guess.

Originally Posted by JJ

Originally Posted by olgaa

я ведь умный!

Maybe something like "After all, I am so smart!"

ведь можно как-то перевести на английский?
can ведь be translated into English somehow?

You know, technically ведь came from ведать, so it could be translated as "you know" I guess.

Good explanation. We say "you know" as a useless interjection, too -- it's something alot of people do, even though it's not very good English. It's alot like, you know, the word "like." It's like, so like, like not liked by English teachers... I'm not sure whether "ведь" is frowned upon in Russian or not?

I dont really think ведь has negative tone or something like that but it does have some special effect

in the case i made up its used to show how smart the person is, to demonstrate supermacy

в моем примере это использовано, чтобы похвастаться и показать, вот какой я умный! ( не то что вы...)

Originally Posted by olgaa

за что тебе дали премию?
я ведь умный!

ведь можно как-то перевести на английский?

can ведь be translated into English somehow?

Why did they give you a prize/award/medal?

I'm smart, you know!
-or-
I'm smart, don't you know!
-or in spoken Enlgish-
I'm smart, don'tcha know!

There are many more ways to translate depending on the exact context.

When we've done some translations in class, Ведь was translated as "Indeed". So your expression could also become "I am indeed clever!"

But, most of the translations we've done in class have been from 19th century russian literature, so the context may have just been way different. I guess 'Indeed' in English does sound rather bookish...

Yeah, "indeed" doesn't really fit the tone imho.

Originally Posted by tdk2fe

When we've done some translations in class, Ведь was translated as "Indeed". So your expression could also become "I am indeed clever!"

But, most of the translations we've done in class have been from 19th century russian literature, so the context may have just been way different. I guess 'Indeed' in English does sound rather bookish...

I am clever indeed.

Yes, it sounds very bookish, but it is possible.

Hmmm.... wouldn't it be something that English would solve with intonation?


Why did they give you a prize/award/medal?

Well, I am smart!


The "after all" is comprised in the "well"...... as a matter of fact, I couldn't really imagine that kind of answer without the "well," at the beginning - except coming from someone ridiculously self-important.


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за что тебе дали премию?
я ведь умный!

ведь можно как-то перевести на английский?

can ведь be translated into English somehow?

I think that in this context the word "ведь" has a tingle of astonishment, surprise, wonder (Я ведь умный, т.е. именно мне должны были дать премию, но почему-то дали тебе)
I surmise, The translation would be like this: It is I who is smart

Originally Posted by Chuvak

I think that in this context the word "ведь" has a tingle of astonishment, surprise, wonder (Я ведь умный, т.е. именно мне должны были дать премию, но почему-то дали тебе)
I surmise, The translation would be like this: It is I who is smart

As a matter of fact I suppose it's a dialogue (not monologue):

A: - За что тебе дали премию?
B: - Я ведь умный!

I think another good translation of "Я ведь умный!" is "Why, I'm smart/clever/intelligent/cute!"

ведь - you see; you know; why; after all

Originally Posted by Vadim84

I think another good translation of "Я ведь умный!" is "Why, I'm smart/clever/intelligent/cute!"

I agree, Vadim.



(And in this case, he could add: "And very modest." )




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