Thread: would have liked

Originally Posted by Seventh-Monkey

It sounds a trifle odd to me. I'd say "I wouldn't have got wet if I'd had ('if I had had', literally, but that sounds dodgy) my umbrella with me". At the risk of a good smiting from TATY

People often use contractions when speaking and it's fine. But if you had to write a formal letter you would use "...I had had..." instead of '"...I'd had...".

Originally Posted by Spiderkat

Originally Posted by Seventh-Monkey

It sounds a trifle odd to me. I'd say "I wouldn't have got wet if I'd had ('if I had had', literally, but that sounds dodgy) my umbrella with me". At the risk of a good smiting from TATY

People often use contractions when speaking and it's fine. But if you had to write a formal letter you would use "...I had had..." instead of '"...I'd had...".

Oh, definitely, I'm just not sure about mixing "I wouldn't have got" and "I had".

Is it because of the tenses or the verbs themselves?
Is it better this way "I wouldn't have gotten wet if I'd worn my raincoat"?

[quote=Seventh-Monkey]

Originally Posted by Spiderkat

Originally Posted by "Seventh-Monkey":3uub1l9m

It sounds a trifle odd to me. I'd say "I wouldn't have got wet if I'd had ('if I had had', literally, but that sounds dodgy) my umbrella with me". At the risk of a good smiting from TATY

People often use contractions when speaking and it's fine. But if you had to write a formal letter you would use "...I had had..." instead of '"...I'd had...".

Oh, definitely, I'm just not sure about mixing "I wouldn't have got" and "I had".[/quote:3uub1l9m]

I am not even 100% about it either. But all I know is:

"I would have got" and "I had" are mismatched tenses:

"I would have got" corresponds to "I had had"

"I'd had" is fine, since I'd = I had (in this context)

Originally Posted by Spiderkat

Is it because of the tenses or the verbs themselves?
Is it better this way "I wouldn't have gotten wet if I'd worn my raincoat"?

See, in your example there.

I had worn a raincoat
I had had my umbrealla

It supports my daying the second part should be "I had had my umbrella", and not "I had my umbrella".

But:

I wouldn't have gotten wet if I wore my raincoat

Can mean "I never wear my raincoat, but if I did wear my raincoat, I wouldn't have gotten wet when it was raining".

It depends when everything is going on.

Originally Posted by TATY

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I was just trying to make the sentence less weird to Seventh-Monkey by changing the words, even if it does supports your examples.
I would say the first one is more an hypothetical situation in its meaning than the second one.

Originally Posted by Spiderkat

Is it because of the tenses or the verbs themselves?
Is it better this way "I wouldn't have gotten wet if I'd worn my raincoat"?

I reckon so, and I'd interpret that as a one-off occasion unless otherwise informed.