Please help to expose a scammer.

I recently got some offer from Internet, they try to make me pay some money, but it seems to me it's a scam. They correspond with me in English, pretending to be officials of some American company, but I suspect they don't even speak English perfectly. Thus, I doubt. Who can check the following and tell me is it a real English or not?

All information about our products is situated on www.@@@.com Send the name of program which you interested. If we produce this program we'll can sell it to you.

Yours faithfully @@@
The manager of @@@ company

(I suppress names in the text).

Particularly, I suspect "we'll can" expression. "Can" is never used with "will" in English, isn't it?

Thank you a lot.

I agree that it is not worded like a native speaker wrote it. Red flags for me are "situated" and no article before "program".

also, 2 words are missing in "program which you interested" (should be (the) progran in which you are interested").

An illiterate native English-speaker could have written "your" instead of "you are", but not just "you".

All information about our products can be found on our website (is situated on sounds unnatural) www.@@@.com Send the name of the program which interests you (you interested is incorrect). If we can produce this program then we will (we'll can is incorrect) sell it to you.

Give the site, please

P.S. How to say in English "чтобы мы знали, что это аферисты"?

Thank y'all!

Please look what he wrote last:

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What? Read the english grammar, please.

Yours faithfully Tim Ball

The manager of Usprogrammer company (www.usprogrammer.com)

usprogrammer@yahoo.com

+1-590-259-6300

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Dear Mr Ball!
Thank you for answering my questions.
I understand you are a manager of a big American programming company. However, let me correct your English a bit.

All information about our products [is situated on -> not a native expression, better is to say something like "can be found at"] www.usprogrammer.com Send the name of [+the!] program [which you interested -> you are interested in]. If we produce this program [we'll can sell -> never use "can" in future, say "we can sell" or "we'll be able to sell" if you need future anyway] it to you.

Побольше занимайтесь языком, мистер Тим Болл! Тогда и клиенты потянутся.

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> Dear sir!
> I am interested in information about your company and products.
> There is very few information at http://www.usprogrammer.com/ but some links to other sites. Where I can read more about your activities? What kind of products can you offer and where can I find their description?
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> Thank you in advance.
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BTW, the international phone calls are too expensive.
Maybe somebody of US residents can check if this is a real phone number?

The site is very strange. There is invisible top frame which does something odd. They're scammers, I'm sure :D

Bob, for your own sake I suggest you NEVER reply to spam or scam because that's what they want.

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All information about our products [is situated on -> not a native expression, better is to say something like "can be found at"] www.usprogrammer.com Send the name of [+the!] program [which you interested -> you are interested in]. If we produce this program [we'll can sell -> never use "can" in future, say "we can sell" or "we'll be able to sell" if you need future anyway] it to you.

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About the phrase "...you are interested in."

I was told in school that you should never end a sentence with the word "in". In spoken English, this phrase sounds perfectly normal. But in written text, it is probably better to say "...interests you."

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Originally Posted by kwatts59

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All information about our products [is situated on -> not a native expression, better is to say something like "can be found at"] www.usprogrammer.com Send the name of [+the!] program [which you interested -> you are interested in]. If we produce this program [we'll can sell -> never use "can" in future, say "we can sell" or "we'll be able to sell" if you need future anyway] it to you.

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About the phrase "...you are interested in."

I was told in school that you should never end a sentence with the word "in". In spoken English, this phrase sounds perfectly normal. But in written text, it is probably better to say "...interests you."

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Or "In which you are interested"

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Originally Posted by kwatts59

I was told in school that you should never end a sentence with the word "in". In spoken English, this phrase sounds perfectly normal. But in written text, it is probably better to say "...interests you."

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Yeah, schools teach us: "Preposition is not a good word to end your sentence with" :P

Textbooks for ad copywriters, however, often recommend to use informal style. "Write as though you are talking to your buddy." So I don't think it is wrong to use informal style in a promotional letter like this. Illiteracy, on the other hand, is a big no-no.

this is nonsense. obviously something's rotten in denmark (sorry to offend anyone from there).

kwatts, I agree with translations.nm. in normal speech and advertising it is ok to end sentences with prepositions. What else do you want me to end a sentence with? You're not from Chicago, are you. ( <-- that is not a question.)

Боб Уайтман -- This is a language site not a scam site, why did you ask such a question here? Вот стопроцентное правило-- если получишь сообщемие от незнакомого лица - нажми Delete. Или лучше Shift-Delete говоря по-Аутлуковски. Проблема сразу исчезнет. Не надо беспокоить других о ней.

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Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман

I recently got some offer from Internet, they try to make me pay some money, but it seems to me it's a scam. They correspond with me in English, pretending to be officials of some American company, but I suspect they don't even speak English perfectly. Thus, I doubt. Who can check the following and tell me is it a real English or not?

All information about our products is situated on www.@@@.com Send the name of program which you interested. If we produce this program we'll can sell it to you.

Yours faithfully @@@
The manager of @@@ company

(I suppress names in the text).

Particularly, I suspect "we'll can" expression. "Can" is never used with "will" in English, isn't it?

Thank you a lot.

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They did make a gross number of errors like this. I have found this to be common with spammers, even ones who claim to be American, though since America is aland of immigrants, you never know. I have had instructors, for classes other than languages, that have English language problems.
I would have said:
Dear prospective client,

You may find all the information regarding our products at (insert URL). If you are interested in any of our programs, please contact us. If it is available, we will quote you a price.

Sincerely,
Name
Title

The way he wrote it also gives away his scam.

You can also do an email trace, which should give you some idea as to where it originated from. Or perhaps which local server that they used to connect to you through. There was a program that I was looking into a while back (don't really remember it now though), that if this particular person's computer was connected to the internet at the same time that you ran this locator program, then you would have their IP address. And from there, you could basically do an IP search and find out what city they were connecting in from. And if their IP related physical connecting location is far different than their listed (mailing) address location, then I would suspect something fishy.

(IP = Internet Provider)

For ya all people!
I was searching for a job in the Internet, and found this suggestion about what Bob has wrote us:

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I recently got some offer from Internet, they try to make me pay some money, but it seems to me it's a scam. They correspond with me in English, pretending to be officials of some American company, but I suspect they don't even speak English perfectly. Thus, I doubt. Who can check the following and tell me is it a real English or not?
All information about our products is situated on http://www.@@@.com Send the name of program which you interested. If we produce this program we'll can sell it to you.

Yours faithfully @@@
The manager of @@@ company

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Being curious, i replied to the usprogrammer@yahoo.com, :( and eventually it was pure scam. So, please, if you notice some advertisements about job offers like that, BE CAREFULL!!! It can be one person writing from different email addresses, Regards,

Well, since there's nothing on that site any more, I don't think it will be much of a problem.

Hi!
Can you help me about one offer I found in the internet. The URL is www.uxxicom.com You need to buy one of the packages there to start working.. Please advice is this some cheating again, or its safe?

Thanks alot

That whole page looks like a scam. Using Google, I found a page for people discussing the investments he mentions. The person who owns that site also owns many others, and apparently has scammed many people. The full list of sites can be found here :arrow: http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.ph ... 6772&st=15


Second, I wouldn't trust a .com address to file any kind of visa for me. Is this the "package" you were talking about? ALWAYS look for a .gov address for this sort of thing.

I know this one was a .com, but stuff like this is one of the reasons I tend to distrust sites ending in .ru, .pl., .cz, etc.

EDIT: If you do want a Treaty Investor Visa, the US Government page is here: http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1273.html

EDIT2: From the website above, here's some proof this guy's a scammer:

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Applicants for visas should generally apply at the U.S. Embassy or Consulate with jurisdiction over their place of permanent residence. Although visa applicants may apply at any U.S. consular office abroad, it may be more difficult to qualify for the visa outside the country of permanent residence.

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Thanks alot!
Hmm.. it seems there is nothing you can trust in the internet :( I wasn't interested in visa information, I was just interested in getting these packages for doing surveys. At the web. site http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.ph ... 6772&st=15
I found answers.. will try to expose them by e - mail. Can you recommend some tips? Do you read russian, Doc Faustus? if yes, i will show you what they wrote me.

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Здравствуйте,

Вы писали: Как я могу быть уверен в безопасности того, что мне пришлют пакет за который я заплатил деньги?

Для того, чтобы наши клиенты чувствовали себя спокойно, мы разместили на сайте информацию о других наших проектах, которые доступны только для жителей США и Канады. Мы работаем в области торговли недвижимостью, автомобилями, продажи и покупки бизнесов, а также покупки и продажи Ноу-Хау. Мы занимаемся открытием Merchant Account, бизнес - иммиграцией, помогаем брать бизнес – ссуды, кредиты для покупки оборудования, также у нас работает принт-студия, которая рассылает постеры и другую печатную продукцию (часы, принты по Арт каталогам, художественные подушки, художественные покрывала, фотографии на холсте разных форматов) по всему миру, и т.д. и т.п.

Вы можете посетить следующие ссылки и ознакомиться с другими нашими проектами:

http://www.findforsalebyowner.com , http://www.becomeaboss.com , http://www.bestchoiceart.com http://immigration.uxxicom.com/

Вся эта информация есть в разделе «О нас»

Также компания Best Choice является сертифицированным (http://www.brokerservicenetwork.com/ ) бизнес брокером (покупка и продажа бизнесов). Вы можете узнать о нас по следующим ссылкам:

http://www.globalbx.com/brokers.asp?sci ... ess-Broker

http://www.businessbroker.net/brokers/b ... york.ihtml

http://www.brokerpages.com/staticNY






Вы писали: Нельзя ли получить сначала пакет, а потом заплатить за него деньги..

Для получения ответа на данный вопрос обратитесь, пожалуйста, к разделу "вопросы" страницы инструкций http://www.uxxicom.com/rus/faq.htm подраздел Оплата за членство.

С уважением,

Менеджер проекта Регина

http://www.uxxicom.com/




Вы писали 28 ноября 2005 г., 14:32:18:


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Регина!


я вам писал вчера по поводу работы. Я посмотрел всю информацию в Интернете. Как я могу быть уверен в безопасности того, что мне пришлют пакет за который я заплатил деньги? Я помотрел, что в FAQ этот вопрос не рассмартивается. Нельзя ли получить сначала пакет, а потом заплатить за него деньги.. ведь если я не оплачу, меня же можно удалить из членского списка. Спасибо.


С уважением,

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But this is the manager in Russia. I will also show you what one company wrote me when I questioned my security

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Hello!

I've recently received an offer from the Internet about doing surveys for money. One company offered that Job. Its located at uxxicom.com they say that they are the part of the Best Choice company. If its not gonna take lot of your time, can you reply me that they are really the part of the Best Choice company in order for me to be sure that it is not a cheating. I'll be very thankful to you.

Sincerely,

Best regards,

HE WROTE: (i don't understand why in russian)
Zdravstvuy
Da moya kompaniya nahodit'sya v New Yorke, mozhesh' posmotret' moi adres na drugih moih websitah
http://www.becomeaboss.com
http://www.findforsalebyowner.com

Ya rabotayu s russkimi partnerami iz SNG, i prinimayu den'gi dlya nih.
Esli ti kupish' paket na http://www.uxxicom.com i u tebya budut problemi, ne vishlut to chto obeschayut, svyazhesh'sta so mnoi i ya reshu vse voprosi.Poka nebilo zhalob na moih partnerov, po etomu ya i rabotayu s nimi.

Leonid Zhivotovskiy
Best Choice
7025 3rd Ave
Brooklyn NY11209
USA

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If there's anyone to check the phone number he gives at http://www.uxxicom.com/rus/about.htm? It's +1 (347) 408-0367

Thanks alot.

Unfortunately, all I know of Russian is a most of the alphabet. Anyway, here's is the information I got about the owner of uxxicom:

Registrant:
Mikhail LvovichYablakau support@uxxicom.com +1.3474080367
Best Choice
7025 3rd Ave Brooklyn
New York,NY,US 11209


Domain Name:uxxicom.com
Record last updated at 2005-08-19 13:56:56
Record created on 2005/5/25
Record expired on 2006/5/25


Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.startlogic.com ns2.startlogic.com

Administrator:
name:(Mikhail LvovichYablakau)
Email:(uxxicom@gmail.com) tel-- +1.3474080367
Best Choice
7025 3rd Ave Brooklyn
\r
t New York
NY,
US

zipcode:11209

Technical Contactor:
name:(Mikhail LvovichYablakau)
Email:(support@uxxicom.com) tel-- +1.3474080367
Best Choice
7025 3rd Ave Brooklyn
\r
t New York
NY,
US

zipcode:11209

Billing Contactor:
name:(Mikhail LvovichYablakau)
Email:(support@uxxicom.com) tel-- +1.3474080367
Best Choice
7025 3rd Ave Brooklyn
\r
t New York
NY,
US

zipcode:11209


Registration Service Provider:
name: Nicsta Corp
tel: +1.6519948509
fax: +1.6519948509
web:http://www.slavhost.ru

Now then, is this guy really a scammer? I think so, yes. In the US, and most likely in Russia, you can get paid to take surveys. I once got paid five dollars to watch a movie preview and tell them what I thought of the movie. But there, it was a small amount of time for a small amount of money. Getting paid at least $8 per hour to drive your car? What company would pay for that? And how would they know if you actually did it?

The most obvious thing was all the logos. None of the logos (k-Mart, Blockbuster, Visa, etc.) were links. They're just pictures he put up himself. I would certainly be concerned about credit card fraud, as there is no link to a security company, such as Verisign.

Again, the whole idea of paying someone so you can take surveys is odd, especially the way they are doing it. I know that when companies do surveys, they have a very specific group they want information from (say, 10 males, 10 females, and in a certain age range). Opening the survey to anyone from any country doesn't make sense. If you have more specific questions (or if someone can translate the important part of the letter above into English) I'd be glad to help out.

ya!
That really concerned me. Scamming is a good business.. just read some articles on some web sites that I've found by Google.
But the worst thing is that he has some links on the web site to some companies like www.findforsalebyowner.com www.becomeaboss.com www.bestchoiceart.com is all of that scamming too? Oh, weird.
Yea, the idea of getting paid for the survey is kinda weird, but, the weirdest thing is getting paid for the survey about 50USD!!! thats alota money even for the company that pays it to the person whom it didn't even see..
Plus, I've typed into Google search support@uxxicom.com and all I've seen there is job offers in Russian Internet, so.. if the Uxxicom provides job places only in Russia, why do they need english version at this site?? That definitely brought up some doubt. I've asked that question to the company, but they answered that we have other projects for US residents: www.findforsalebyowner.com www.becomeaboss.com www.bestchoiceart.com So it means that this guy cheated many people if he is the admin of these web sites too.
But one more thing that really confused me is the quality of the web site. (uxxicom.com) but other sites, like www.becomeaboss.com. is that scam site too?
I'll try to translate you all the chain of e - mails i've recieved from this company.
Thanks alot, much respect

hmm... www.becomeaboss.com seems to be very good quality site!!!

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Well, it could be, but there's really no way to tell.

Well, I'm using the word "scam" here a bit loosely. There are some surveys out there that pay some pretty good money. This guy could be running a legitimate business. But it doesn't look like it. Those other sites seem a little better, but there's no way to know. I would just avoid it, but it's your money.

Hey found that in the internet... It seems not to be scam.. but its kinda expensive.. whats the opinion? http://www.paidsurveysonline.com/
http://www.lacetoleather.com/onsurthatpay.html it looks like good offers.. but again, who will pay these money for just filling out the surveys?? Hmm..
Much respect

That first one looks like it's the same scam as the original link you posted. The second one seems to be (mostly) legitimate. With the second one, it looks like most of the prizes are small or a CHANCE to win a large prize. As I said before, many US companies do pay money for surveys, just not a lot.

So.. Why everything is scam!!! :(
As I understood you wouldn't participate in amy projects that ask you to pay in order to become a memeber? Do you trust http://www.lacetoleather.com/onsurthatpay.html if they offer some companies where they pay you for your worK? Do you know some companies that are guaranteed to pay you money for doing some work in the internet (doesn't have to be surveys) Appreciate you for being responsive 8)

Much respect,

That's right: if I have to pay, it sounds like a scam. lacetoleather.com looks OK, since they're not asking for any of your money AND the pay seems reasonably low.

http://www.getcashforsurveys.com/ seems to be scam too, but I got it from lacetoleather.com... Dunno whatta do???? but I've joined Ciao! surveys... they really contacted me.. but the membership was free. So, i'm waiting for paying surveys.. But I doubt about getcashforsurveys.com Does it looks like scam to you.
Much respect,

We have a saying in the United States: "If something sounds too good to be true, then is probably is." Making $5 per survey does not sound too good to be true. Getcashforsurveys.com says that you can "Make [7,238.90p] per hour!" Now that DOES sound too good to be true. It sounds like you're learning what is a scam and what is not, and good luck with those surveys!

EDIT: I found this page while poking around.

http://www.freesohojobs.com/fastfindssurvey.html

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus

We have a saying in the United States: "If something sounds too good to be true, then is probably is." Making $5 per survey does not sound too good to be true. Getcashforsurveys.com says that you can "Make [7,238.90p] per hour!" Now that DOES sound too good to be true. It sounds like you're learning what is a scam and what is not, and good luck with those surveys!

EDIT: I found this page while poking around.

http://www.freesohojobs.com/fastfindssurvey.html

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I've found all mail order businesses to be a scam at least on some level.
I did try a mail order business for (assembly) once, in fact I requested information on about 7 but they would not send any information or product without first a check. So simply, I did not believe them.--that's just me. but never answer anybody's plea for help for money transfers or whatever--total scams.

Thanks for the link! It didn't made me rich.. :D but I registered to some free membership sites, well hope to get some... Do you think its worthed for me to join http://www.freesohojobs.com/ in order to recieve all the job opportunities? Does it matter if i leave in Russia? Thanks for advice.
Much respect,

Well, if it is free, then there is no reason for you to not sign up.

I don't know if it matters that you live in Russia, you would need to ask them that.

Found one web site http://www.12dailypro.com/?ref=168183 do you think its worthed of investing money there? It doesn't looks like scam. Thanks, much respect.
About http://www.freesohojobs.com/ .. if you want to get most of the job offers you should buy at least one package.. like to be their memeber in order to participate in most of the job offers http://www.sohojobs.org/subscribe.html so, its not actually free
But they have very good service - you can get web sites that are scams for free, so they are trustworthy. Thanks for this link!
Much respect,