Thread: America's Next Top Model

Originally Posted by Lena

Do you really mean that young people living in cities use a language different from that of young countrypeople? Or does that mean that there are no young people living in the country in the US?

Well, in my opinion I think there's a distinct difference in culture between young people of the cities and those of the country. They dress differently, talk differently. One might even say they have different values. There may be similarities, but still there are the differences. It surprises me that you may not have the same thing in Ukraine.

Originally Posted by kgcole

Well, in my opinion I think there's a distinct difference in culture between young people of the cities and those of the country. They dress differently, talk differently. One might even say they have different values. There may be similarities, but still there are the differences. It surprises me that you may not have the same thing in Ukraine.

Possibly, the main reason of that lies in the fact that there is hardly any work here in villages and small towns. People have to migrate to cities in search of work. Living in cities means a better life for them. That may be the reason they consider many urban features more prestigious and classy, and that includes language. Besides they watch television and there’s lot of slang and foul language in movies and soaps. Of course they use the “urban” language only in their company. I don’t think they use much slang and foul language with their moms for that only reason that their parents may not understand them and won’t admire them for being “cool”. It’s just my supposition, I don’t know for sure. But in my business I often meet young people who have just arrived from the country and I always like to find out a lot of details about them and their language as well.

Originally Posted by Lena

Possibly, the main reason of that lies in the fact that there is hardly any work here in villages and small towns. People have to migrate to cities in search of work..

I imagine that's a common phenomenon...jobs being more available in cities. But I think rural communities can also be an opportunity to provide certain services that one usually has to go into the city to find.

Originally Posted by kgcole

I imagine that's a common phenomenon...jobs being more available in cities. But I think rural communities can also be an opportunity to provide certain services that one usually has to go into the city to find.

Maybe communities do something, but very little. They have no money to even make roads for people. They only make patches on roads once a couple of years. Rural communities officials are only busy doing bribery for giving land plots while they must give them to people for free.

People can start their own businesses in the country and they do. But any business needs to be profitable in order to survive. If the demand for a certain service is weak the business will have to shut up. You couldn’t live on embroidering living in a small village, could you? Look at this. It’s the list of all local authorities bodies (рада) in Kiev region. Click a number in the “Кількість сільських населених пунктів” column. Now in the first column you can see the names of villages that relate to a particular рада. Each village name is introduced by the letter “с”. Then click any village name and in line 7 you will see the number of its residents in thousands. Most of the villages total two or three hundred people, the smallest totals 16 people I guess. What business can survive there?
http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/z7502/A...8&rf7571=14962

Originally Posted by Lena

Maybe communities do something, but very little. They have no money to even make roads for people. They only make patches on roads once a couple of years. Rural communities officials are only busy doing bribery for giving land plots while they must give them to people for free.

People can start their own businesses in the country and they do. But any business needs to be profitable in order to survive. If the demand for a certain service is weak the business will have to shut up. You couldn’t live on embroidering living in a small village, could you? Look at this. It’s the list of all local authorities bodies (рада) in Kiev region. Click a number in the “Кількість сільських населених пунктів” column. Now in the first column you can see the names of villages that relate to a particular рада. Each village name is introduced by the letter “с”. Then click any village name and in line 7 you will see the number of its residents in thousands. Most of the villages total two or three hundred people, the smallest totals 16 people I guess. What business can survive there?
http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/z7502/A...8&rf7571=14962

That's too bad there's widespread bribery. Doesn't say much for the fairness of a system. I see your point about the small villages, and you're right about business...it can't survive without profit. I live in an area where salaries are depressed and most people are looking to buy as much as they can for as little as possible. But then that's always the case, isn't it?

Originally Posted by kgcole

Most people are looking to buy as much as they can for as little as possible. But then that's always the case, isn't it?

I'm sure it is. Always and everywhere. And the same at every level of the society in a way.

Btw, I have a question to you. Did you watch the video at

Test to work in Russia

The first sentence is “… started work around 6AM”. What would you say when speaking about yourself, let’s say, to your sister? Would it be I started work at 6AM or at 6 o’clock in the morning or at 6 in the morning? I mean if you had to indicate it was in the morning. 6AM seems too official to me as for speaking to one’s people.

It amuses me greatly to watch 0:48 – 0:50, when the officer speaks in a insincerely kind tone: “Заявление. Спасибо.” I bet he never speaks like that at work. He would never use this tone and he would never say спасибо in this situation. He just knows he is being filmed. How sad.

Originally Posted by Lena

I'm sure it is. Always and everywhere. And the same at every level of the society in a way.

Btw, I have a question to you. Did you watch the video at

Test to work in Russia

The first sentence is “… started work around 6AM”. What would you say when speaking about yourself, let’s say, to your sister? Would it be I started work at 6AM or at 6 o’clock in the morning or at 6 in the morning? I mean if you had to indicate it was in the morning. 6AM seems too official to me as for speaking to one’s people.

It amuses me greatly to watch 0:48 – 0:50, when the officer speaks in a insincerely kind tone: “Заявление. Спасибо.” I bet he never speaks like that at work. He would never use this tone and he would never say спасибо in this situation. He just knows he is being filmed. How sad.

hmm, I imagine the situation dictates how time would be said. On a newscast like that, it would be expected they would say, "...started work at 6AM". But you're right, if I were talking to my sister I'd probably say, "I started work at 6," or "I started work at 6 in the morning." It depends on whether it's definitely known what time of the day you're talking about. I might also say, "I started this morning at 6."

I suppose we all act differently when we know we're being filmed. It's a natural tendency.