Thread: не в голосе

Как сказать по-английски:
Я сегодня не в голосе.

I'm out of voice today
I'm in bad voice today

Are these variants wrong?

"I've lost my voice."

Originally Posted by TATY

"I've lost my voice."

А "сегодня"?

- Спойте нам, пожалуйста.
- Нет, извините, я сегодня не в голосе. (="I've lost my voice"??)

А как тогда сказать "Я объелся мороженого и потерял голос" ?

And pease, someone, answer my question:
Are those variants above wrong?
I'm very stupid and I can't understand it until I hear "yes" or "no".

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by TATY

"I've lost my voice."

А "сегодня"?

- Спойте нам, пожалуйста.
- Нет, извините, я сегодня не в голосе. (="I've lost my voice"??)

А как тогда сказать "Я объелся мороженого и потерял голос" ?

And pease, someone, answer my question:
Are those variants above wrong?
I'm very stupid and I can't understand it until I hear "yes" or "no".

Хмм, я не совсем понял значение "не в голосе".
Сейчас ясно.

"I'm not in good voice today".
или
"My voice isn't at its best today."

Оля wrote:

And pease, someone, answer my question:
Are those variants above wrong?
I'm very stupid and I can't understand it until I hear "yes" or "no".

As for the first variant I would say no. Here is an example:

"I'm out of voice," said he.

http://books.google.com/books?id=u962Aq ... CGxwrYta3o
As for the second variant I would say yes, but you can fix it: I have a bad voice today. or My voice is bad today.

(TATY's alternative "lost my voice" is used more often. I'm just answering your question directly as you requested.)

Thanks.

Originally Posted by TATY

Хмм, я не совсем понял значение "не в голосе".

А я думал я один такой который не понял.
Оля, ты в музыкальную школу ходила?

Originally Posted by Ken Watts

Оля wrote:

And pease, someone, answer my question:
Are those variants above wrong?
I'm very stupid and I can't understand it until I hear "yes" or "no".

As for the first variant I would say no. Here is an example:
[quote:7fuaebwf]"I'm out of voice," said he.

http://books.google.com/books?id=u962Aq ... CGxwrYta3o
As for the second variant I would say yes, but you can fix it: I have a bad voice today. or My voice is bad today.

(TATY's alternative "lost my voice" is used more often. I'm just answering your question directly as you requested.)[/quote:7fuaebwf]

"I'm out of voice" may be in some book, but it doesn't mean it sounds right. I'd say it's wrong, it sounds bad.

Originally Posted by TATY

"I'm out of voice" may be in some book, but it doesn't mean it sounds right. I'd say it's wrong, it sounds bad.

I'll second that.

TATY wrote:

"I'm out of voice" may be in some book, but it doesn't mean it sounds right. I'd say it's wrong, it sounds bad.

Maybe it's just out of fashion. Here is the same sentence in two more books, one by an English author, and also an article:

Barber in 1978 often reminisced that he "often had to persuade" his Aunt Louise to try out his songs. She would say her ususal, "Sammy, I'm out of voice"; then he would plead with her to sing until she gave in.

http://books.google.com/books?id=d725Ic ... q6_zf4_b5I

But I often had to persuade Aunt Louise to try out something of mine: I’d ask, and she would say, “Sammy, I’m sorry, I’m out of voice”; then I’d plead and she’d say,“Well all right I’ll look at it.”

http://www.newworldrecords.org/linernotes/80229.pdf

". . . Mr. Engleton, will you attempt this duet with me that we practised last night?"
"I--yes--certainly," cried Mr. Engleton, who was advancing at this juncture; "but I'm out of voice--very--to-night."

http://books.google.com/books?id=-swBAA ... z-EhJ0DnOc

Originally Posted by Ken Watts

TATY wrote:

"I'm out of voice" may be in some book, but it doesn't mean it sounds right. I'd say it's wrong, it sounds bad.

Maybe it's just out of fashion. Here is the same sentence in two more books, one by an English author, and also an article:
[quote:3py47g4c]Barber in 1978 often reminisced that he "often had to persuade" his Aunt Louise to try out his songs. She would say her ususal, "Sammy, I'm out of voice"; then he would plead with her to sing until she gave in.

http://books.google.com/books?id=d725Ic ... q6_zf4_b5I

But I often had to persuade Aunt Louise to try out something of mine: I’d ask, and she would say, “Sammy, I’m sorry, I’m out of voice”; then I’d plead and she’d say,“Well all right I’ll look at it.”

http://www.newworldrecords.org/linernotes/80229.pdf

". . . Mr. Engleton, will you attempt this duet with me that we practised last night?"
"I--yes--certainly," cried Mr. Engleton, who was advancing at this juncture; "but I'm out of voice--very--to-night."

http://books.google.com/books?id=-swBAA ... z-EhJ0DnOc[/quote:3py47g4c]

I doubt it was ever in fashion. It's colloquial to the point of being too colloquial. And frankly I find your constant cut 'n' pasting from Google quite tiresome.

Originally Posted by TATY

Originally Posted by Ken Watts

TATY wrote:

"I'm out of voice" may be in some book, but it doesn't mean it sounds right. I'd say it's wrong, it sounds bad.

Maybe it's just out of fashion. Here is the same sentence in two more books, one by an English author, and also an article:
[quote:vudy2zse]Barber in 1978 often reminisced that he "often had to persuade" his Aunt Louise to try out his songs. She would say her ususal, "Sammy, I'm out of voice"; then he would plead with her to sing until she gave in.

http://books.google.com/books?id=d725Ic ... q6_zf4_b5I
[quote:vudy2zse]But I often had to persuade Aunt Louise to try out something of mine: I’d ask, and she would say, “Sammy, I’m sorry, I’m out of voice”; then I’d plead and she’d say,“Well all right I’ll look at it.”

http://www.newworldrecords.org/linernotes/80229.pdf

". . . Mr. Engleton, will you attempt this duet with me that we practised last night?"
"I--yes--certainly," cried Mr. Engleton, who was advancing at this juncture; "but I'm out of voice--very--to-night."

http://books.google.com/books?id=-swBAA ... z-EhJ0DnOc[/quote:vudy2zse]

I doubt it was ever in fashion. It's colloquial to the point of being too colloquial. And frankly I find your constant cut 'n' pasting from Google quite tiresome.[/quote:vudy2zse]
Я согласен полностью. Это очень неважно, если только один человек что-то говорит/пишет. Не сомневаюсь, что Оля умеет Google использовать.

Originally Posted by xRoosterx

Я согласен полностью. Это не слишком существенно, когда только один человек что-то говорит/пишет. Не сомневаюсь, что Оля умеет Google использовать.

TATY wrote:

I doubt it was ever in fashion. It's colloquial to the point of being too colloquial. And frankly I find your constant cut 'n' pasting from Google quite tiresome.

Yes the above quotes were found with the help of Google but these are all from books or articles that were originally published in print. I know nobody appears to like this, but there is additional evidence from the following books, also originally published in print, that use "out of voice" with the same meaning (which you are free to ignore):

Mrs. Strong was a very pretty singer; as I knew, who often heard her singing by herself. But whether she was afraid of singing before people, or was out of voice that evening, it was certain that she couldn’t sing at all.

Dickens, Charles, David Copperfield, The Harvard Classics Shelf of Fiction 154 (1917) http://www.bartleby.com/307/16.html

And so, most tasteful and provident public, you are going out of town on Saturday next?--We envy you. Mars is gone, and Sontag is gone, and Pasta is going--and Velluti is out of voice

http://www.fullbooks.com/The-Mirror-of- ... dx256.html

Mr. Moore was called upon, but pleaded being out of voice.

http://www.archives.upenn.edu/primdocs/ ... record.pdf (pages 73-74)

Edna May was nervous and out-of-voice . . . Miss Burke made the hit of the evening

http://books.google.com/books?id=8p25NC ... 77scKLFlUE

"Fremstad's Isolde is great," says a veritable aristocrat of criticism, Mr. William Henderson, "even when the prima donna is out of voice."

http://books.google.com/books?id=um66oX ... XVQBtr5PNg

. . . but they both seemed out of sorts, out of temper, out of voice, and most frequently out of tune, which is unpardonable in artists of their calibre.

http://books.google.com/books?id=dIgPAA ... Pb5N7kEXmI

Although the following is not from a book here's a 2007 example of use:

. . . and further assume nobody's out of voice for the day. That's the only way to beef up the singing ensemble to as many as 16 remaining, out of the 20.

http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Vocal/BWV232-Gen15.htm

I guess one can use (ironically) "I am having a bad voice day" (playing on "a bad hair day"

А что такое "a bad hair day"?

Originally Posted by Оля

А что такое "a bad hair day"?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=bad+hair+day

А что такое "a bad hair day"?

Пожалуйста, кто может, ответьте по-русски и без ссылок. Я умею пользоваться Гуглем.

Originally Posted by Оля

А что такое "a bad hair day"?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...a+bad+hair+day
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/53900.html

a bad hair day - это день, когда казалось бы все идет наперекосяк и не так как хотелось бы (например как непослушные волосы).

Здесь можно провести параллель с to get out of bed on the wrong side

Это приблизительно синонимичные выражения.