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    there's not enough such facilities

    Is it correct to say "the number of such facilities is not enough"?
    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by kamka
    Is it correct to say "the number of such facilities is not enough"?
    Thanks in advance.
    No, that sounds wrong.

    There are not enough such facilities.

    Or

    The number of such facilities is inadequate.

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by scotcher
    There are not enough of such facilities.
    I can't believe you may really say so! No kidding?

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    what about "there's not enough such facilities"? Is that wrong as well?

    also, do you say "there's a lot of people in the restaurant" or "there are a lot of people in the restaurant"?

    Thanks Scotcher

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by alexB
    Quote Originally Posted by scotcher
    There are not enough of such facilities.
    I can't believe you may really say so! No kidding?
    You totally can't! I changed my mind half way through the sentence and didn't correct it properly. Good catch!

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by kamka
    what about "there's not enough such facilities"? Is that wrong as well?

    also, do you say "there's a lot of people in the restaurant" or "there are a lot of people in the restaurant"?

    Thanks Scotcher
    Technically it should be 'there are...', but 'there's...' is probably more common in everyday speech.

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Alright, cheers

    btw, if I say "ta", is it considered to be a bit rude?

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by kamka
    Alright, cheers

    btw, if I say "ta", is it considered to be a bit rude?
    No, 'ta' is fine. It's informal but not rude.

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    I would say, "There are not enough of facilities such as these."
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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by DDT
    I would say, "There are not enough of facilities such as these."
    I don't think "of" should be there either.

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by scotcher
    Quote Originally Posted by DDT
    I would say, "There are not enough of facilities such as these."
    I don't think "of" should be there either.
    You're probably right. Perhaps I lived in the USA for too long.
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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    what is the rule for putting "of" there then? Does it have anything to do with whether a given noun is countable or uncountable?

    btw, thanks for your suggestion, DDT

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by kamka
    what is the rule for putting "of" there then?
    Before a pronoun or a noun with a determiner, we use enough of.

    - The exam was bad. I couldn’t answer enough of the questions.

    Enough of is also used after personal and geographical names.

    - I haven’t seen enough of Europe.
    http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/usage/enough.htm
    Determiners are words like a, my, this, that, some, all, both, either, every, enough and several. They come at the beginning of noun phrases, but they are not adjectives.
    http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/gloss ... miners.htm

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    I think of it it like this.

    I will use "of" if the thing I am talking about are many or it is one out of many.

    There are not enough of these.
    There are not enough of these tractors.
    There are not enough tractors.

    There are not enough of the/these tractors with red seats.
    I don't know if it is grammatically correct or not, but many people use this construction.
    Some people will drop "the/these". To be grammatically correct you probably should drop the "of" aswell in this case but many people don't. I think leaving the "of" in, is colloquial.
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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    But you wouldn't say "there are not enough of tractors", which is the grammatical equivalent of your earlier sentence.

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    Re: there's not enough such facilities

    I think one could hear that if it was implied by context that the speaker was talking about tractors compared to "enough" of something else.
    But I would guess that you are right in principle, and that educated people may not have a propensity to speak in this way.

    Oh, if only my Russian was that good that I could be arguing the subtleties of it!
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