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    F***

    Sorry for obscene question, but I cannot figure it out why on earth in the phrase "f**k you" the pronoun you "stand" after the verb, but not before (you f**k). If it's an imperative mood then, I think, "you" must be changed to "yourself" (f**k yourself). could you explain me this thing?

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    Such a dirty mouth, Chuvak!

    OK, to answer your question, the beauty (or ugliness conversely) of the word "f*ck" is that you can pretty much use it however you want:
    -f*ck you! (verb)
    -f*ck yourself! (verb) (you'll hear this too; it's different than f*ck you as I'll show you)
    -f*ck your mother! (verb)
    -f*ck! (expression)
    -f*cking <something>! (adjective)
    -about a million other things...

    What you are saying when you say "f*ck you" is essentially just shortened from "may <somthing> f*ck you!" You're saying some third-person/object is doing that action to them. "F*ck yourself" implies that the person would do it alone, to themselves. I think "f*ck your mother" is self-explanatory. If you hit your finger with a hammer or your football club misses a shot on goal then you'd just yell plain "f*ck!" And if you're mad at that hammer or at that player, then you could say "I can't believe that f*cking footballer missed that shot!" or "I hate that f*cking hammer!"

    Really, Chuvak, you're giving this word too much thought. It's such a vulgar and non-official word, that really you can use it HOWEVER you want. A foreign character in a film here said something like "C*nt Wh*re Sh*tface F*ck D*mn D*ck!" (ask BlackMage, he knows this film by heart) which sounded really funny, but it wasn't really that far off base either, judging by the way some people curse like sailors...
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    well, the phrase 'go f*** yourself' is certainly popular, and it works. However, as for your question of grammer with regards to the original phrase, i'm not sure that anybody could really explain that. Maybe it's derived from something like "i'm going to f*** you up" or something similar, but I really don't know. It's slang, and as with most slang in english, it doesn't really make sense. It just has a connotation that people can relate to.

    *edit: You can also say "you f***!" using it as a noun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    If you hit your finger with a hammer or your football club misses a shot on goal then you'd just yell plain "f*ck!"
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    <NyseriA> i just hit my hand with a hammer
    <NyseriA> and the first thing i said was "SPLENDID"
    <NyseriA> which made me laugh
    <NyseriA> then i dropped the hammer on my foot because i was laughing at me saying splendid instead of FUCK
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    Chuvak, I have an audio file you might like. Tell me and I'll send it to you.
    Corrupting young minds since May 6, 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMage
    Chuvak, I have an audio file you might like. Tell me and I'll send it to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMage
    Chuvak, I have an audio file you might like. Tell me and I'll send it to you.
    BlackMage: Corrupting young minds since May 6, 2004.
    But he's older than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMage
    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMage
    Chuvak, I have an audio file you might like. Tell me and I'll send it to you.
    BlackMage: Corrupting young minds since May 6, 2004.
    But he's older than me.
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    Fine. Then:Corrupting minds, young and old alike, since May 6, 2004. Now you just made more work for yourself -- go edit that siggy!
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    The "F" word is probably the most flexible word in the English language. Nothing is wrong, people always try to be original.

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    There is an audio file on the internet that explains the flexibility of the word f***. A good example is the sentence:

    F*** the f***ing f***ers.

    Scott

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    I think it would make a good fraction as well. "Our profits are down four F***ths of a percent from last quarter!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Layne
    I think it would make a good fraction as well. "Our profits are down four F***ths of a percent from last quarter!"
    I'm lost to translate this in Russian!

    Bydaway, how do you guys feel like when you hear this cursing in movies? It's at every step!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    Bydaway, how do you guys feel like when you hear this cursing in movies? It's at every step!
    Irritated. But good luck with avoiding it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    Bydaway, how do you guys feel like when you hear this cursing in movies? It's at every step!
    I heard that in the subtitles of the American release of Ночной Дозор there's TONS of swearing, even though there's no swearing in the original version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMage
    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    Bydaway, how do you guys feel like when you hear this cursing in movies? It's at every step!
    I heard that in the subtitles of the American release of Ночной Дозор there's TONS of swearing, even though there's no swearing in the original version.
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    I have an awesome audio clip entitled "Uses of the word 'F*ck'". It actually answers your exact question.
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    Профанация в фильмах только делает их поближе к действительности. Большинство людей так и говорит.

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    I hope you are not the majority. :винк:
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darobat
    I have an awesome audio clip entitled "Uses of the word 'F*ck'". It actually answers your exact question.
    Hey, I think I have that. Does it have "one of the most interesting words in the English language today is the word 'fuck'" near the beginning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    I hope you are not the majority. :винк:
    Lol, of course not..... but everyone's gotta go wild just every once in a while...

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