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    Re: Slavs Origins

    Quote Originally Posted by chukcha
    I heard that there are two theories about the origins of slavic people: a normanist theory that is based on the Nestors chronicles and establishes the roots of Slavic people in Scandinavia
    There were originally a group of people living in the Urals who migrated to what is now Finland and established the Finnish population. I don't know if they were in any way related to the Slavs in Russia or Scandinavia, but I thought I'd just throw it out there

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    Hmm, that theory on Etruscans sounds dangerously close to the Illyrian theory of origin which claimed Croats were descended from the Illyrian people of the Adriatic, perhaps backed up by the Dalmatian romance language? (or was this dying language a Roman/Medieval product)
    Regardless, it has as much validity as the polish aristocracy believing they were decended from Samaritans...a way to be non-slavic, or have greater traceable roots.
    Well, I have here Bohyslav Chropovsky's The Slavs: their significance, political and cultural history, and although I fear the findings of a book published in 1989 in Czechoslovakia might be too baised for some sort of Moravia origin..

    That said, it mentions a number of theories for the original Slavic homeland (and perhaps the people that would become the Slavs...or at least, a point on their migration that we have evidence of...)
    The Vistula-Dnieper theory where the Slavs were on the river basin of the Dnieper some time between 1500BC to 500AD. (blame the length of time on scholarly arguement)
    The Oder-Dnieper theory is another one, though most people agree to an early middle age time settlement.
    The Dnieper theory holds Slavs existed on the Dnieper basin from earlier then 5th century BC.
    The Oder-Vistula theory has their home originally between the Oder and Bug, around sixth to fifth century BC. (claims Germans pushed them out)
    Chropovsky here seems most excited, however, with then Danubian theory.
    He then proceeds to explain that the Balto-Slavs, or Ancient Slavs probably existed on the above territories by the end of the second millennium BC, until language divisions grew to split the Baltics off from the Slavic language, which was developed in the South.

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    поправьте линки (напишите короткий текст), а то таблицу распирает сильно, приходится по горизонтали мотать.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL
    Quote Originally Posted by Греческо
    Do Slavs have any origin from Scythians?
    «Да - скифы мы, да - азиаты мы, с раскосыми и жадными глазами».
    (А. Блок)

    Правда, Блок был еще тот историк. Скифы относились к европеоидам и вряд ли могли иметь "раскосые глаза".

    http://slovari.yandex.ru/art.xml?art=bs ... %26isu%3D2

    "
    Скифы(греч. Skythai), общее название основного населения Северного Причерноморья, состоявшего из родственных племён североиранской языковой группы индоевропейской семьи. С. были родственны савроматам (сарматам), массагетам и сакам. Одни исследователи считают их потомками носителей срубной культуры эпохи бронзы, продвигавшихся начиная с 14 в. до н. э. с территории Поволжья на З. Другие полагают, что основное ядро С. вышло из Средней Азии или Сибири и смешалось с населением Северного Причерноморья. Начало истории С. отмечено их войной с киммерийцами, которые были вытеснены С. из Северного Причерноморья к 7 в. до н. э., и походами С. в Малую Азию. С 70-х гг. 7 в. до н. э. С. завоевали Мидию, Сирию, Палестину и господствовали в Передней Азии, но в начале 6 в. до н. э. были вытеснены оттуда мидийцами. Следы пребывания С. отмечены и на Северном Кавказе. Основная территория расселения С. - степи между нижним течением Дуная и Дона, включая степной Крым и районы, прилегающие к Северному Причерноморью. Северная граница неясна. С. разделялись на несколько крупных племён.
    "
    и т.д.
    Насколько я понимаю, ближайшие родственники скифов (уцелевшие) -- это осетины. Со славянскими народами родство у них, мягко говоря, отдаленное.
    Кр. -- сестр. тал.

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