HI
I love bini . I been trying to find a recipe to make bini . found a few recipes but not the same as the ones had in russia . Does anybody have good bini recipes . thanks my email is dusty_ink99@hotmail.com
Lauren
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HI
I love bini . I been trying to find a recipe to make bini . found a few recipes but not the same as the ones had in russia . Does anybody have good bini recipes . thanks my email is dusty_ink99@hotmail.com
Lauren
what on earth is bini? bikini?Quote:
Originally Posted by russia03
Do you think this is supposed to be blini? Aren't they those little pancake thingies? Do they taste nice? I thought they were to eat with caviar?
Do you eat pancakes with caviar in England? Cos we certainly don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by BJ
I wouldn't eat caviar if I was starving, on a desert island with nothing else to consume, in the arctic with nothing else to consume, in a space ship with nothing else to consume so no I wouldn't eat caviar with pancakes BUT I thought blinis were pancake type things. So what are they VM? I'm desperate to know now.
BTW the rest of my family who have more taste (or less depending on your point of view) would eat caviar with thin strips of toast. They eat pancakes with sugar and orange juice. But since its the same recipe for pancakes as Yorkshire pudding, I like pancakes and mint sauce
Blini are sort of half way between pancakes and crepes. American pancakes are thicker and lighter and more of a cake like texture. Blini can be eaten with anything you like. Sour cream, jam, caviar, salmon, herring, etc. They are definately yummy.
Well, one Cockney chef here in St Pete cooked us some English pancakes with sugar and lemon juice once - they were exactly the same as the Russian blinis. Not to be mixed up with oladyees - those chaps are smaller and much much thicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by BJ
As for blinis with caviar - it's what the bears that roam our streets eat.
Curiously enough, they do sell blini with caviar at the Teremok stands. Those bears must be good regular customers.
Caviar is the nastiness, though. Yaarg salty fish eggs.
I like blini with sour cream. If there's no sour cream, sugar or jam is good too. But the difference between what Americans know as pancakes (like you can buy at the Waffle House in any good southern town) and Russian blini is the thickness - pancakes are a lot thicker and cake-like. You can argue with that statement all you want, but it's what I've observed from 15 years of American pancakes and several wonderful Russian friends (in Russia) making blini. I'd never eat either with fish or caviar though.
Plebs!
Blini with caviar ... simply delectable.
hmm where's the dribbling mouth smiley?
Amazing, really, that I can buy them in my local cafe, when you consider that nobody in Russia ever eats them. Have they laid it on specially for me?! How touching!
They laid it on just for you. And the bears :DQuote:
Originally Posted by waxwing
All my relatives (especially all the bears) in Russia insist on serving me LOTS of that yucky red caviar (frequently with blini). Since I'm the guest I have to eat it. But I'll give you a hint on how to survive it, Lindsy. For years I've gagged on the stuff and on several occasions almost hurled onto the table. Now I make sure those slimy little eggs are engulfed in sour cream or butter and I swallow the mess whole then chase it with a beverage. The most important thing is NEVER NEVER bite. If you pop those salty oily eggs in your mouth you will definately hurl!!
This is because we like to feed you your own stereotypes about us. Have you seen Crocodile Dundee? You can live on it, but it tastes like sh*t. The same thing with blinis with caviar. You like to think we like 'em. And don't we all just like reinforcing those idiotic stereotypes? Why? We just love seeing you as charlies, we'd hate it if you wisened up. I'm dead serious about this. This is exactly how many of my countrymen think about it. Behind your backs they often laugh their arses off. Not all of us of course. I, for example, don't. But there are scores of people out there who do.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
Yep, they are there for foreigners. I once asked a girl I know who works at чайная ложка if anyone ever orders blinis with caviar and she said nope, no one except for foreigners. no russian has ever ordered blini with caviar at least in her living memory. can I ask you a question? do you wear bobby helmets? those tiny plastic ones? you must, otherwise why the hell would they be selling 'em all over London.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxwing
Well, I don't know about your American pancakes, but when a British chef cooked for us his English pancakes with sugar and with lemon juice they were exactly the same thickness and texture as our Russian blinis. That's your normal Russian blinis, but then there's also the yeast dough blinis which are thick and of course there are the so-called oladyees, which are usually smaller in size and can be both thin and, if made with yeast, thick. Then, there's a wealth of morkovnye, kartofelniye etc. oladyees made with carrots, taters, etc. respectively. And they too can vary in thickness. I suspect you know a two three families in Russia and you base your judgement exclusively on their personal culinary preferences. And it simply means that those friends of yours prefer the thin variety but the thick one exists in great abundance it's just that it has never been your luck to run into those who prefer them over the thin ones. I have the opposite problem - most of my friends prefer the thick ones and I just hate them (the thick blinis).Quote:
Originally Posted by emka71aln
That's so weird, 'cos I just was so curious about this issue of caviar last week that I flew to Nizhniy Novogord and conducted a casual poll of Russians and discovered that 47/51 people polled enjoy blini with caviar and of those 51 only 2 believed that plastic bobby helmets are all the rage in Britain! And then I took the train to Petersburg went to the Чайная Самовар restaurant and asked the lady behind the counter about the relative rates of foreigners vs. Russians eating blini with caviar, and she said, wow, that's weird, this middle-aged fellow just asked me that, and then tried to pinch my ass! And then I was mugged by a horde of gypsy children who stole all my carefully documented research on the subject. Alas. Увы.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
From this experience I learned that it's easier to just make stuff up when discussing things on an internet forum! Boy, if only I'd figured that out before buying my plane ticket!
That's a lie. First of all Самовар is masculine, therefore it would've been Чайный Самовар. Secondly there is no such cafe in St Petersburg called Чайный Самовар, but there's a Чайная Ложка chain of cafes which serve blinis. So get your facts straight. Secondly, I have a friend who works at Чайная Ложка whether you like it or not and she told me what I told you in my post. Now, believe that or not it is true and even if you don't believe it it is still true and you've got a nose the length of a telegraph wire from Hong Kong to Liverpool because you're a damn liar, Lindzi. Lie is all you ever do. And what the hell do you know about Russian culture anyway you're just an ignorrant cowgirl from the fly-over country so stick to your cowshed cleaning chores and don't ever I repeat ever flirt with the thought that you can out argue me, the lord of the argument because I got facts solid facts and you got fook all m'lady.Quote:
Originally Posted by Линдзи
Hee. It sure it a good thing you caught me in that lie, VM. Because otherwise some other poster might have believed what I wrote and thought I did all that!
Weirdly enough, though, the чайная самовар is a real restaurant. I used to eat lunch there occasionally. They're a branch of чайная ложка, actually, and I think the poor grammar of their name is supposed to be a joke, albeit a rather stupid one.
Lindzi! .. that was just sublime .. :lol:
Can anyone put 'egg' and 'face' together to make a well known saying ?
There's nothing wrong in чайная "Самовар", чайная is not an adjective but a noun here (a tea room) and "Самовар" is it's name.
Cool, Friendy, I didn't know that. Is Чайная short for чайная комната or something like that, then?
Lindsy- YOU GO GIRL!! (high 5)
If you ever fly to Moscow we'll go to Propoganda Cafe and have some (fat and fluffy) blini with jam. Since we both hate those nasty fish eggs we don't have to order them. Most Russians I know DO NOT eat caviar with their blini in restaurants because it's TOO EXPENSIVE. But when there is a special guest or holiday they splurge on the best and that's why I get to eat the stuff at holiday dinners. And my aunts and uncles do not think feeding Americans blini with caviar is some sort of joke. :roll:
VM I've never heard of "English pancakes", not even when I was in England. I don't quite understand what the lemon juice mixture is. Can any Brits explane this?
JB, I just may take you up on that offer. I expect to be in Moscow next summer :D Yay, blini with jam!
Then we'll also go to Solkoniki Park for a beer and blinchiki, those flat little blini :wink: made into ham and cheese burritos!! :wink:
Man, my mouth is watering. My favorite food in Russia was apple blinchiki with honey. Dammit, I'm gonna have to go back SOON. Or possibly just learn to cook. :D
Most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Линдзи
Making homemade blinchiki is a pain. You have to keep messing with the batter until it is the right thickness to not stick to the pan. But if you don't get it right it sticks and glops up and is a big mess :cry:
About 'British' pancakes .. it's not really a very popular food in the UK. I remember I went to a 'Dutch pancake house' restaurant in Manchester many moons ago. Maybe Jasper has a comment on that :)
Traditionally, we eat pancakes on Shrove Tuesday ('Pancake Day'), and usually we have lemon juice and sugar on them. But I don't really know if that tradition is very popular any more, I remember it from my childhood.
As to blinchiki with apple and honey, that sounds really good too.. I remember having them with apple and chocolate sauce once in Izhevsk, it was really good..
A final note: I can't believe nobody has tried to make a блин pun yet :P
Nothing will ever convince me that a masculine noun самовар can be proceeded by a feminine adjective чайная. It's чайный самовар - this is the only possible combination. Adjectives agree with nouns in gender, case and number. чайный самовар, чайного самовара, чайному самовару, чайных самоваров etc. Incorrect agreement gives out a foreigner in you.
Now, as for that silly noun чайная - supposedly a cafe where they drink tea. If that was the case then самовар would be the name of it and therefore two thingies like this one here - " - should be placed around it like that - Чайная "Самовар", otherwise it's as I said above - incorrect agreement.
Now, about English pancakes. The juice (with a lot of sugar mixed into it) is used for dunking those pancakes into during the process of eating. The chef who made them was a Londoner, a retired Royal Navy cook. His whole household in England has blinis at least once a month.
What sort of pun are you talking about :?:Quote:
Originally Posted by waxwing
And what lesson can we learn from that Russian-language-studying-wise? We can add a nice Russian proverb to our active vocabulary: первый блин комом. This means that your first attempt is an unsuccessful one but that's ok cos that's the way it is, your next one is going to be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
Oh yeah? And you even gave a link? And did you check that link out? If you had, you'd've known that 'чайная' is not part of the name, but a type of establishment. Saying чайная самовар restaurant is the same as saying "pub red lion pub". You see, it's this sloppy attitude of yours that gets you into trouble - you see, details are important, but you shrug them off and this makes you sound so awfully ignorant but opinionated. Please be more careful - your sloppy attitude to detail has nearly cost me my membership here - they tried to ban me, but, of course, we all know that truth finds a way and I'm still here. I've hacked my way through the ban to be with all of you here again, so that I could watch and help your Russian and knowledge of our culture grow and blossom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Линдзи
Just took a look at the link. Even though the sign on the outside of the building has Tearoom and Samovar on different places, the painted window sign (behind the sunflowers) has the name arranged in a way that reads Tearoom, Samovar. Which in English would be translated as Samovar, a Tearoom. But I thought this was about those crazy pancakes they sell in that tearoom. Looking at the link I can't tell if the customers are 100% Russian or foreigners. Hmmm, what do you think VM? But don't claim that guy in the baseball cap is a foreigner because my 100% Russian stepson has just requested me to bring home a suitcase full of American baseball caps for him and all of his college friends. :P
JB - although Shrove Tuesday is traditionally the day that pancakes are eaten, many families have them at all times of the year. They are a cheap easy and popular pudding. When the pancake is cooked it is laid on a plate and caster sugar sprinkled over the top then lemon juice or orange juice is squeezed on top and the whole thing melts on the hot pancake. Some people roll them up to eat, others just cut up the circle on the plate.