what religion is more spread in russia?
do people believe? in what?
is there lots of people that believe in god? what age range the most?
what is faith to you?
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what religion is more spread in russia?
do people believe? in what?
is there lots of people that believe in god? what age range the most?
what is faith to you?
Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.
Want to try to guess? Don't cheat ;)
Most are non-believers. One would think that the majority of believers belong to the Russian Orthodox Church, but that's actually not true - indeed, the Russian Orthodox Churh has the largest congregation compared to all the other religions (Catholicism, Protestantism, Lutheranism, Presbyterianism, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, a wide variety of pagan cults, you name it) but if you put all the other religions practiced in Russia together, they will actually outweigh the Russian Orthodox. Personally, I'm not religious.Quote:
Originally Posted by petite fleur
Faith is what no one can live without.
A lot of Russian in Russia are non-practicing Russian-Orthodox christians.
thanks to the ones that answered non-ironicaly
so actually they would not practice as, for example young families with children that have their church where they go to, as in america and australia?
why is that? what do you think?
I don't know guys, I personally think that Russia, compared to the West, is alot more religious practicing. Communism "banned" religion (i put it in quotes!!! Don't kill me yet!), but many, especially in the villages, still praciticed their religion (mainly Russian Orthodox). I have many Russian young friends who go to church regulary.
Of course it is trending towards the West, where the young don't feel the need for religion...
There are a bunch of Russian churches around here and most of their clientele only speak Russian still. I know this for a fact because I attend their services occasionally because......well.. er.. there's a lot of hot chicks in there.
and don't anyone ask me for my sources.
I think to be religious is the rare exception and not the rule. I heard it is really about 3%.
http://ateism.ru/articles/sova01.htm
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При изучении вопроса о конкретных формах религиозной практики, выяснилось, что подавляющее большинство лишь на словах заявляет о своей религиозности ("православности"). Например, в 1999 г. только 1% всех респондентов (3% назвавших себя верующими) сказали, что часто общаются со священниками, а 79% (61% верующих) ответили, что не общаются с ними никогда. В том же году полностью соблюдали пост только 4%, а 44% заявили, что никогда не раскрывали Библии. Поэтому исследователи постарались выделить категорию "настоящих", или "традиционных верующих". По их мнению, таковыми следует считать "лиц, которые: 1) идентифицируют себя как верующих; 2) верят в Бога, с которым можно вступить в личные отношения (а не "жизненную силу"); 3) считают себя православными и 4) или а) посещают церковь не реже раза в месяц, или б) часто молятся. Таких людей оказалось в 1996 году 6%, в 1999 году - 7%". Но "если же мы чуть ужесточим критерии и к нашим четырем добавим, например, регулярное причащение, или соблюдение поста, или прочтение хотя бы раз хотя бы одного Нового Завета, или отсутствие веры в астрологию и переселение душ, группа традиционных верующих вообще "исчезнет".
К. Каарийнен и Д. Фурман делают вывод о том, что "слова "религиозное возрождение в России" могут употребляться только в кавычках. Это возрождение имеет самый поверхностный и "идеологический" характер, не затрагивая более глубоких слоев сознания". Авторы отмечают, что смешение конфессиональной и национальной идентичности, а также данные о соотношении "настоящих верующих" и тех, кто лишь на словах заявляет о своей приверженности православию, имеют особое значение для РПЦ.
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Please please please don't draw your conclusions looking at the Russian diaspora at your part of the world - today's Russians in Russia are waaaaay different. Those of Russian descent are as alien to us today's Russians living in Russia as "proper" foreigners. The majority of Russians in Russia are non-believers and certainly do not go to church.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDT
What you mean trending? It would be trending if there had been a lot of people going to church once and now not so many, but the thing is there have never been many people going to church in Russia anyway and now there are certainly not as many (in per capita terms) than, for instance, in Norway, where I got the shock of my life when I saw what looked to me as crowds of church goers. In Russia hardly anyone ever goes to church, definately less that 1% of the entire population. Some funny friends you've got, kalinka, I would be hard pressed to point out anyone who goes to church at all let alone regularly. And those few who do tend to be mostly the artsy-fartsy crowd - but they don't really believe, they are there cos it's suddenly "in".Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
P.S. I certainly know more people who would rather shout Hare Krishna all day than go to a Russian Orthodox church.
from all of you that replied, who believes in god?
Good question. There are some who does, for sure. Majority pretend. I mean they believe they are chrisians, but they are too busy to go to church regulary, to pray (some of them do not know how to do that properly), so they declare that, on Russian Christmas they may go to Church to watch performence, but that is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by petite fleur
Yes, they may care a cross on their neck. Still does not make the true believer.
DDT is a sample. Go to church to pick up chicks. What was about adultary in the Bible?
Pioner, A) Don't take everything DDT says literally, he is a master of sarcasm and has a black belt in irony. Take his post for the humoristic value they have. I thought his post was hilarious!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pioner
B) Please do not speak for the forum about what we believe we are, whether we go to church and whether we know how to pray. You have no insight to that information. Let us speak for ourselves.
To answer the post: I am not religious, but I believe in God.
VM: Your Norwegian shock is, to me, somewhat baffling. In Norway churches are closing down due to the lack of attendence. Unless you were in Norway on a particular religious holiday (like Easter), where most school children are required to attend church ceremony (we have state religion), you won't see the types of crowds compared to Russia (or at least of that I have seen of Russia, which is limited, I agree).
Maybe I just had a bas sample of Russians, that 30% of them go to church regulary. It can happen.
I am an atheist.Quote:
Originally Posted by petite fleur
I am an atheist too.Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ
I'm an Orthodox Christian.
Yes, the number of active believers is quite small. However it grows, and more people, including young, become serious about the faith.
I am Christian, too and not ashamed of it.
I consider myself an agnostic, and believe in the probability of a supreme being, but it's something very, very incomprehensible to us. I don't practice anything related to organized religon. The concept is an entirely human-made. My only serious beef with some religons are these ideas being tossed around that the earth is only a few thousand years old . . . . . sorry, I just have an extremely difficult time accepting this. :|Quote:
Originally Posted by petite fleur
there is nothing in it to be ashamed of.Quote:
Originally Posted by CTPEKO3A
Good, but I really know some guys here who says they are believers and they go to church to pick up chicks. Really. And they said that they are more moral then I am. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
We discussed here major religion in Russia. There was a period of my life when I was about to join Russian Orthodox Church. I have a lot of friends who are Russian and religious, I do have inside view. :)Quote:
B) Please do not speak for the forum about what we believe we are, whether we go to church and whether we know how to pray. You have no insight to that information. Let us speak for ourselves.
OK, so I misunderstood you, because you misundertsood the question. The question was who on this forum were Religious. And you say that "here" (i.e. forum) people pretend to be christian, whence you meant Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pioner
I don't consider myself an atheist, but I sure hope there is someone up there. Otherwise we are hurtling through space at 66,000 miles per hour, and no one is in control. Makes you feel all warm inside, doesn't it?
maybe my English is THAT bad :(Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
but I still do not see anything in original post:
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what religion is more spread in russia?
do people believe? in what?
is there lots of people that believe in god? what age range the most?
what is faith to you?
Read your post again :)
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[quote:6f64wl6y]petite fleur wrote:
from all of you that replied, who believes in god?
Good question. There are some who does, for sure. Majority pretend. I mean they believe they are chrisians, etc....[/quote:6f64wl6y]
I believe that is called Agnostic. There is no proof either way, so how can you say for sure He is there? Agnostic.Quote:
Originally Posted by saibot
I like that word. It sounds cool. Agnostic. Agnostic. Agnostic. :D
it's ok kalinka, pioner gave her opinion on how generaly looks like from her perspective
He is a boy. I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by petite fleur
Well, you should know better but I saw what I saw - crowds of people.Quote:
VM: Your Norwegian shock is, to me, somewhat baffling. In Norway churches are closing down due to the lack of attendence.
No, no holiday.Quote:
Unless you were in Norway on a particular religious holiday (like Easter),
This is truly sad. (IMHO, of course)Quote:
where most school children are required to attend church ceremony (we have state religion)
In Russia you won't see any crowds at all, while in Norway the police even had to seal off a few streets and I saw them make arrests (they're bloody good at using their truncheons, I must say).Quote:
you won't see the types of crowds compared to Russia
I don't think you've been to Russia at all, min kjaere ven, but I do think that you like to spin a lot :wink: .Quote:
or at least of that I have seen of Russia, which is limited, I agree
I am not a boy for many years already. 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by CTPEKO3A
LOL! You are telling me that our police arrested church goers, and beat them up with truncheons? They had to seal off streets to let the church goers go outside? Man, which Norway did you go to? Can you tell me your specific whereabouts?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
min kjQuote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
oh sorry, i thought you're a female... :wink:
oops
Yes, but not for the "crime" of attending church, but because they had started a fight with some vietnamese fruit vendours.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
They did so to protect them from the motorists and the motorists from them. It was a huge, rampaging crowd of religious zealots.Quote:
They had to seal off streets to let the church goers go outside?
The horribly cold and inhospitable one, smelling of herring and cheap sex. Narvik.Quote:
Man, which Norway did you go to? Can you tell me your specific whereabouts?
[quote]min kj
I know that smell, I lived there for three years! Maybe it was me, can you tell me when you were there? If it was between 1996 and 1999, bingo! Also, do you remember the dates? Was it during Vinterfest Uka? A "beating" by Police in Narvik is a rare occurance, believe me, I can do a quick search in the newspaper archives to find out what the Taliban you are talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
So which church was it? There are many churches in Narvik, was it the one on Frydenlund side, that is the biggest. One of my Russian friends lived on top of the Methodological one, but I can hardly see that one as a big angry crowd gatherer.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
Which street? Gate 1, Gate 2? Those are the main streets.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
[quote=VendingMachine][quote]min kj
No, actually, it was 2002 I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
No, it was late october I think.Quote:
Also, do you remember the dates? Was it during Vinterfest Uka?
Well, I don't. OK, a mass beating probably indeed is a rare, almost freak occurance, but you can't deny that loads of people are mistreated on the motorways on a regular basis.Quote:
A "beating" by Police in Narvik is a rare occurance, believe me,
Sure, you could do a search, you could even talk to the chaps who run the paper there, but what's the point? In Norway no idiot trusts what they write in the papers - all of the papers in Norway are controlled by either by the gov't or some mob. Neither can be trusted. Cock and bull due to coverups is the only news the people get.Quote:
I can do a quick search in the newspaper archives to find out what the Taliban you are talking about!
Not only have I heard them speak, I myself actually speak quite a bit of Danish. The most beautiful language in the world, Danish.Quote:
Have you ever heard the Danish speak?
Yes, I actually do. A Hungarian lady who became fluent in Russian in under a year. Can you meet her? Well, what makes you sure she would like to meet you?Quote:
Do you know any foreigner become fluent within a year? I would like to meet that person!
Watch me: I DENY IT! This is getting pointless, you are obviously taking the truth, letting it marinate in lye for three days and then boil the hell out of it, so to make it somewhat edible. But you just get Lutefisk. Still don't remember which roads or church?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
It is actually fun to argue with you VM, because you are so eccentric. Next you will try to persuade me to think that whale-killing is actually something bad! :lol: I think you are mixing Norwegian press with Russian.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
Well, good on you! Why Danish? Were you attracted by its beauty or was it the Gammel Dansk which was more compelling? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
Nice! You know one (1) person! Now lets extrapolate that to all foreigners and make them meet that standard, is that so?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
OK, have it your own way - I saw what I saw, you can't deny what I saw with my own eyes. Doesn't change things for me - you live in a brutal, barbarian police state and I feel sorry for you that you don't notice it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
Actually, I don't think that whale hunting is bad while killing cows is OK. The whale is just an animal, it can be hunted. I see eye to eye on this one with the Norwegians.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
I don't read Russian papers - they give me bad gas.Quote:
I think you are mixing Norwegian press with Russian.
I can't explain that rationally - I just love the sound of it. How can you explain why you like what you like?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
I was attracted by its beauty. I also find female Danish voices extremely erotic. So maybe I like it on that score. Whatever.Quote:
Were you attracted by its beauty or was it the Gammel Dansk which was more compelling? :wink:
I just gave you an example of one particular person, I know more people, 4 or 5, probably more - that Hungarian lady had a roommate from France (!) and she too was fluent in about a year, there was this Welsh guy taught by my next-door neigbour, a uni professor, there were others, I just don't see the point of listing them all here. Why don't you come out with it - you've never been to Russia for that long.\Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
P.S. Why did you change your avatar? I'm so disoriented now.
That's a VERY extreme word. Voices really do that to you?Quote:
I was attracted by its beauty. I also find female Danish voices extremely erotic. So maybe I like it on that score. Whatever.
PS. Never do a google image search of this word. :o