Thread: Foreign Patronoymic Names

Originally Posted by Johanna

3) Do you know if foreigners who live in Russia use patronymics?

Гус Иванович Хиддинк. (there was even a documentary on Russian TV titled this way)

P.S. To be quite honest, Johanna, "Бэнгтовна", and even "Бенгтовна" looks and sounds very difficult to Russians.

Originally Posted by Оля

P.S. To be quite honest, Johanna, "Бэнгтовна", and even "Бенгтовна" looks and sounds very difficult to Russians.

As for me "Бенгтовна" is good enough for Russian eyes and ears.

Originally Posted by Wowik

As for me "Бенгтовна" is good enough for Russian eyes and ears.

It's because you've been to Sweden.

Originally Posted by Оля

It's because you've been to Sweden.

I've been only in Sweden Airspace.

Okay, to Norway. No difference in this case.

Originally Posted by Оля

P.S. To be quite honest, Johanna, "Бэнгтовна", and even "Бенгтовна" looks and sounds very difficult to Russians.

Hm... Well this isn't an urgent problem since I don't live in Russia.
But if I worked in St Petersburg for a while as I had considered, then it would be nice to have a patronymic.

I wonder how to solve it? Use his second name "Erik"? OR:

How are they going to know what my father's name is... It's not in my passport. Maybe I should just "make up" the most stylish-sounding patronymic I can think of..

But I've noticed that people in Central Asia use patronymics and some of them are based on very un-Russian names.

Do such names sound strange to you? Or perhaps they are familiar anyway, because of the Soviet history?

Originally Posted by Johanna

But I've noticed that people in Central Asia use patronymics and some of them are based on very un-Russian names.
Do such names sound strange to you? Or perhaps they are familiar anyway, because of the Soviet history?

I think yes. Although, for example, I never was able to make out by ear what exactly is Булат Окуджава's patronymic and how it is spelled. I know it's Шалвович because I've seen it in writing once.

As for you not having a patronymic, when in Russia, there is no problem at all. Foreigners shouldn't have it, and just Юханна would be okay. Then again, if you were to stay in Russia for a long time or even forever, I think Ивановна would work perfectly.

Originally Posted by Оля

I think Ивановна would work perfectly.

Originally Posted by «Необыкновенный концерт» спектакль кукольного театра имени С.В.Образцова

Бетховен, Людвиг Ваныч.

But I think Петровна is closer to Бенгтовна

Johanna, I think your patronymic should be Бенедиктовна in Russian, since Bengt is a Swedish form of Benedict which is in turn a modified Jewish name Baruch (בָּרוּךְ) (Blessed).



Юханна Бенедиктовна - звучит очень красиво.

Originally Posted by Wowik

Бергтовна

Вот, сам же и перепутал. А говоришь, простое отчество.

Я согласна с Рамилем.

Originally Posted by Оля

Вот, сам же и перепутал. А говоришь, простое отчество.

Клавиши рядом!

Originally Posted by Ramil

is in turn a modified Jewish name Baruch (בָּרוּךְ) (Blessed).

is in turn a modified Latin Benedictus (благословенный) is in turn...???
http://kurufin.narod.ru/html/Translate/benedict.html

Originally Posted by http://www.sweden.orthodoxy.ru/ru/chronicle/2007/

15 сентября в Покровском приходе Гетеборга прошла очередная Божественная литургия. Впервые в истории прихода ее совершили клирики трех Поместных Православных Церквей: Московского, Сербского и Константинопольского Патриархатов. Богослужение возглавил настоятель Сергиевского прихода в Стокгольме протоиерей Владимир Александров. Ему сослужили священник Неманя Мияйлович и диакон Бенгт (Бенедикт) Хагстрем.

But sometimes these names are distinguished

Со стороны компании «СтатойлГидро АСА» в заседании приняли участие президент г-н Бенгт Ли Хансен, директор по связям с промышленностью г-н Бенедикт Хенриксен.

Originally Posted by Ramil

Johanna, I think your patronymic should be Бенедиктовна in Russian.

No it shouldn't! Here are another variants

Юхана Венедиктовна or
Юхана Венидиктовна!

Венидикт is "REAL Russian" name - it is in Orthodox church calendar so this name can be given while christening.

Тогда честнее будет Баруховна

Originally Posted by Ramil

Тогда честнее будет Баруховна

1. Это не по-русски. Такого нет в свяцах.
2. Я не уверен, что Benedictus заимствован из Барух. Это же просто перевод! http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Benedictus

Начнем с того, что имени Юханна тоже в святцах нет. Мне больше нравится Бенедиктовна. Оно подчеркивает иностранность, но звучит красиво.

Originally Posted by Ramil

Начнем с того, что имени Юханна тоже в святцах нет. Мне больше нравится Бенедиктовна. Оно подчеркивает иностранность, но звучит красиво.

Тут руссифицировали именно отчество, а не имя.
Ну а в целом - так звучит гораздо привычней, чем Бенгтовна.
Бенедиктовны у нас на каждом шагу! Польша-то рядом, да и Германия. Да и мировая революция была на носу.
http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D0%91 ... 0%BD%D0%B0

Originally Posted by Ramil

Johanna, I think your patronymic should be Бенедиктовна in Russian, since Bengt is a Swedish form of Benedict which is in turn a modified Jewish name Baruch (בָּרוּךְ) (Blessed).



Юханна Бенедиктовна - звучит очень красиво.

Thanks Ramil! Honestly, that that sounds pretty chic, doesn't it?

I had no idea the name was based on "Benedikt" - I thought it was an old viking name! Thanks for putting me right!

Бенгт vs Бенедикт is a Russian Orthodox custom, everyone must have a name from a list of saints. Russian female parishiners whose name is Tatiana routinely name themselves "Fotinia" before taking communion. Other Orthodox Churches don't have this tradition.

So once Johanna needed a patronimic, an official would register what he/she would hear.