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Hi Russian !
i want to learn russian by myself !
but i face some problems...one of them the pronunciation, and how to spell the letters with stressed or without stressed and sometimes i hear the letter prounce in different way.
hope u can help me
thanx u all...

we all have problems with the shifting stress, just be thankful you're not chinese, then you'de be in for some serious fun. all comes with time, no big deal if you make mistakes. listen to radio and try to carefully learn where the stress goes. no real easy way round it

Well, the Radio doesn't have lyrics...so i donno what are they saying
so i tried music. but i am afraid that the words in Russian music isn't said in the right way.
so...i hope if there is anysite prounce the word or if there is any suggested song

Originally Posted by Raed

Well, the Radio hain't any lyrics...so i dunno what they are saying
so i tried music. but i am afraid that the words in Russian music aren't said in the right way.
so...i hope if there are any sites prounce the word or if there is any suggested song

Originally Posted by Chuvak

Originally Posted by Raed

Well, the Radio hain't any lyrics...

...

Sometimes it's better not to do anything unless you want to rephrase every sentences plus correcting the mistakes. Why did you replace something grammatically correct by something wrong?

что это за новое слово hain't any lyrics...

Chuvak, there is no such word "hain't any". "Doesn't have" was correct. Maybe you shouldn't be correcting posts in English?

thanx Chuvak
but i guess we went out of the subject
and i guess u meant "ain't "
and thanx for the correction

Raed,
Have you tried to listen to some of the free software out on the internet?
BYKI.com is a good starter. You can slow down what is said. Look around, learn the sounds of the letters. It's hard to learn most anything without a formal class, but you can learn some basics on-line now. Find a Russian friend! I have 2 months before the Russians attack Cape Cod and I can try out the vocabulary I have learned this winter.

These sites show how to stress words.
http://russian.dmll.cornell.edu/rdt/
http://slovari.gramota.ru/(in Russian)

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Chuvak, there is no such word "hain't any". "Doesn't have" was correct.

hain't - I took it from the story "Sherlock Holmes" By A. CONAN DOYLE
There is a short dialog:

Have you found it, Wiggins?"
"No, sir, we hain't," said one of the youths.

Anyway, I'm so sorry .... I thought it was an adopted version of "haven't"

Maybe you shouldn't be correcting posts in English?

I agree!!!
But if no one corrected him, I thought that it was my duty to do it !!!

Originally Posted by Chuvak

hain't - I took it from the story "Sherlock Holmes" By A. CONAN DOYLE
There is a short dialog:

Have you found it, Wiggins?"
"No, sir, we hain't," said one of the youths.

May be, it is an imitation of children's enunciation?

Originally Posted by Chuvak

hain't - I took it from the story "Sherlock Holmes" By A. CONAN DOYLE
There is a short dialog:

Have you found it, Wiggins?"
"No, sir, we hain't," said one of the youths.

Anyway, I'm so sorry .... I thought it was an adopted version of "haven't"

Aw Chuvak - these writers can be so nasty, can't they?
In this case, I suppose Mr. ACD used a phonetic transcription of bad, probably regional dialect, English, to show that the young person speaking wasn't well educated.
You get that a lot in Dickens too.....

But you weren't to know that - just blame the British


Raed - welcome to MR
Music is often pretty good for getting used to stresses in words, but if you want proper pronunciation, I suggest you go for classical singers - they usually have very clean pronunciation (probably too clean - but you have to start somewhere!).

Have a great time, you'll learn an awful lot here!

thanx BabaYaga
for the advice. i was thinking about the music but i was afraid that they say the words in incorrcet way.
and...can u give me names for good songs ?
hope everything is correct Chuvak

Originally Posted by Raed

thanx BabaYaga
for the advice. i was thinking about the music but i was afraid that they say the words in an incorrcet way.
and...can u give me the names of some good songs ?
hope everything is correct Chuvak

it's ain't not haint

Originally Posted by Raed

thanx BabaYaga
for the advice. i was thinking about the music but i was afraid that they say the words in incorrcet way.
and...can u give me names for good songs ?

Raed - sorry, I missed this post

There are so many songs that it's hard to pick out just a few

For a couple of great voices (and extremely clear pronunciation), have a listen to these:
http://bards.pp.ru/50let/

(If you want the text of any of these songs, just drop me a line, I have most of them )

You can also browse around the "Russian Only" board - our Lampada always posts lots and lots of great songs .
That way, you can make up your own mind on what you do and don't like ....

Good luck!