Thread: Russian Alphabet help

my friend was trying to teach me the Russian alphabet, but was having trouble explaining a few of the charactors. They were: ы and б. Do they have a sound, if not how do they effect the word?

any help is appreciated

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Kate

thank you that site was helpful, but one more question: what are Ъ and Ь ?

thanks
Kate

I think, ы = "ea" in really

б = b

http://masterrussian.net/mforum/viewtopic.php?t=9778

Originally Posted by Kakashka

but one more question: what are Ъ and Ь ?

After consonant before vowel. Separating hard/soft sign.
Ъ - "hard sing" - previous consonant is hard and prononced separately from the next vowel.
Ь - "soft sing" - previous consonant is soft and prononced separately from the next vowel.

After consonant before consonant or at the end of word.
Ь - "soft sing" - previous consonant is soft.
угол - end l is hard
уголь - end l is soft

Historically in old Slavonic languages
Ъ - very short vowel У or О. (Still used in Bulgarian)
Ь - very short vowel И.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yer

The letters Ъ and Ь have no sound. They only indicate the quality of the preceding consonant. The Ъ means that the consonant is not palatalized (that it is a so-called hard consonant) and the Ь indicates that the preceding consonant is palatalized (it is a soft consonant). There are some additional spelling rules where Ь is there purely historically and does not indicate palatalization.

Example:
сел 'he sat down' /s'

[quote=chaika]
сел 'he sat down' /s'

But печенье and печение are two different words.

печенье = cookie, biscuit

печение (from the verb печь = bake) = baking

Originally Posted by Vadim84

But печенье and печение are two different words.

печенье = cookie, biscuit

печение (from the verb печь = bake) = baking

печение - это не только процесс, но часто так говорят и о результате.
А наоборот даже еще чаще - см. у Даля вообще эти слова не различаются толком

Originally Posted by Wowik

Originally Posted by Vadim84

But печенье and печение are two different words.
печенье = cookie, biscuit
печение (from the verb печь = bake) = baking

печение - это не только процесс, но часто так говорят и о результате.
А наоборот даже еще чаще - см. у Даля вообще эти слова не различаются толком

Лично я люблю читать Даля, но многие предпочитают не обращаться больше к его словарю по причине устарелости. У Ожегова печение - это процесс.