Thread: Pronunciation of г in бог

I understand that бог is pronounced бох. Does this non-standard pronunciation of г remain when case and number suffixes are added? For instance, are богу and боги pronounced боху and бохи?

Originally Posted by mudrets

I understand that бог is pronounced бох. Does this non-standard pronunciation of г remain when case and number suffixes are added? For instance, are богу and боги pronounced боху and бохи?

Бог as [бох] is an exception to the rule. Лог, смог, дог are pronounced [лок], [смок], [док].
Боги is pronounced [боги].
Богу is pronounced [богу], or sometimes with a fricative г. But not [боху].

Traditionally Г in БОГ, ГОСПОДИ are pronounced in Russian as in Church Slavonic with fricative Г ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_glottal_fricative ).
At the end of the word voiced(sonant) consonants becomes unvoiced consonants.
So fricative Г becomes Х while ordinal Russian plosive Г ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_velar_plosive ) becomes К.

This tradition is not very strict at present time and Church Slavonic pronunciation is mainly used in the most frequent forms БОГ and ГОСПОДИ

Большое спасибо за ответы.
Thank you very much for the answers.

Originally Posted by Wowik

Traditionally Г in БОГ, ГОСПОДИ are pronounced in Russian as in Church Slavonic with fricative Г (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_glottal_fricative).
At the end of the word voiced(sonant) consonants becomes unvoiced consonants.
So fricative Г becomes Х while ordinal Russian plosive Г ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_velar_plosive ) becomes К.

This tradition is not very strict at present time and Church Slavonic pronunciation is mainly used in the most frequent forms БОГ and ГОСПОДИ

Если это так...Хосподи?

Originally Posted by Wowik

Traditionally Г in БОГ, ГОСПОДИ are pronounced in Russian as in Church Slavonic with fricative Г (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_glottal_fricative).
At the end of the word voiced(sonant) consonants becomes unvoiced consonants.
So fricative Г becomes Х while ordinal Russian plosive Г ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_velar_plosive ) becomes К.

This tradition is not very strict at present time and Church Slavonic pronunciation is mainly used in the most frequent forms БОГ and ГОСПОДИ

You said Г in Church Slavonic was a voiced glottal fricative. But X is a voiceless velar fricative, i.e. strictly speaking they are not a pair, as they are pronounced at different locations. The true voiceless counterpart of a voiced glottal fricative is the voicelss glottal fricative /h/, which is English H.

Currently in Church Slavonic Г is a voiced velar fricative (a voiced Х)

Originally Posted by xRoosterx

Originally Posted by Wowik

Traditionally Г in БОГ, ГОСПОДИ are pronounced in Russian as in Church Slavonic with fricative Г (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_glottal_fricative).
At the end of the word voiced(sonant) consonants becomes unvoiced consonants.
So fricative Г becomes Х while ordinal Russian plosive Г ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_velar_plosive ) becomes К.

This tradition is not very strict at present time and Church Slavonic pronunciation is mainly used in the most frequent forms БОГ and ГОСПОДИ

Если это так...Хосподи?

No, because vowels are voiced, so a voiced consonant would be pronounced, which would be the voiced velar fricative. (X is the voiceless velar fricative).

Если это так...Хосподи?

есть такой вариант..обычно в шутливом стиле:
http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearch?clid=95 ... 0%B4%D0%B8

Originally Posted by TATY

Originally Posted by xRoosterx

Originally Posted by Wowik

Traditionally Г in БОГ, ГОСПОДИ are pronounced in Russian as in Church Slavonic with fricative Г (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_glottal_fricative).
At the end of the word voiced(sonant) consonants becomes unvoiced consonants.
So fricative Г becomes Х while ordinal Russian plosive Г ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_velar_plosive ) becomes К.

This tradition is not very strict at present time and Church Slavonic pronunciation is mainly used in the most frequent forms БОГ and ГОСПОДИ

Если это так...Хосподи?

No, because vowels are voiced, so a voiced consonant would be pronounced, which would be the voiced velar fricative. (X is the voiceless velar fricative).

Ah, thanks.

Originally Posted by TATY

But X is a voiceless velar fricative, i.e. strictly speaking they are not a pair, as they are pronounced at different locations.

Ну не все разницу осознают, даже если чувствуют, да и "украинских Г" (не взрывных "русских") тоже две штуки .